Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Latest Breaking News
In reply to the discussion: Trump orders Commerce Dept. to begin work on new census [View all]
BumRushDaShow
(165,531 posts)4. The SCOTUS ruled 5-4 that doing the "citizenship" thing was illegal
Ironically, the fact that the 3/5th of a person crap was put there to GIVE "more population" to the slave states using the count of people (enslaved Africans) who were not considered "citizens" at the time (which is what the 13th & 14th Amendments finally remedied), is a case in point of how absurd they are.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
5 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
48 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
A census costs a lot of money, and takes a lot of temporary employees to accomplish
Fiendish Thingy
Aug 2025
#1
I'm sure they will get around the ruling by just not asking the question
Fiendish Thingy
Aug 2025
#6
The Census Bureau uses statistical models to estimate those who do not respond including non citizens.
Wiz Imp
Aug 2025
#21
"My deportation plan was a complete success... There are now ZERO illegal immigrants in the U.S.!"
thesquanderer
Aug 2025
#29
If they aren't counted, won't state counts go down causing less congressional seats.
mdbl
Aug 2025
#12
I updated the OP with an article about the labor trafficking that is a problem there.
BumRushDaShow
Aug 2025
#22
The six states with the largest unauthorized immigrant populations in 2022 were:
Wiz Imp
Aug 2025
#25
He explicitly said he was ordering a "new census". Recounting a previous census is not a new census.
Wiz Imp
Aug 2025
#23
True. But the linked article gives no indication that Trump was talking about redoing the 2020 Census.
Wiz Imp
Aug 2025
#32
He stopped the census early in 2020. That must not have been enough to tip the scales.
live love laugh
Aug 2025
#16
I posted their previous Census schedule upthread (in an ebedded link though)
BumRushDaShow
Aug 2025
#26
USSC: : 2020: "declined to rule on whether a president has the authority to exclude undocumented immigrants "
riversedge
Aug 2025
#30
The constitution is 100% clear that apportionment is to be based on the proportion of RESIDENTS
Wiz Imp
Aug 2025
#41
They could save a lot of time and trouble if they just had ICE conducting the census,
Bayard
Aug 2025
#33
At the very least, this will send census intimidation into the stratosphere.
thought crime
Aug 2025
#43