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NNadir

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Thu Oct 24, 2024, 02:50 PM Oct 24

Vanity Question: Did you ever consider yourself good looking, or conversely, ugly? [View all]

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I had a friend, a real good looking guy - a real friend - who tried to pick me up when I was really, really, really down on myself, who said he wished he looked like me. It was a long time ago, but I remember it because it seemed so weird. I felt - and a part of it was psychological - extremely ugly, extremely unattractive, although if I look at pictures from that time of my life, I was sort of average looking, if unkempt from poor grooming habits.

Anyway, with gentle praise and advice, that guy saved my life. We've drifted apart, but I will never exhaust my gratitude to him for what he did in that time and place.

Lately, as my life winds down and I reflect on it, I've taken to looking at pictures of my wife from early in our marriage, and in one or two, I don't look entirely bad, but to tell the truth, in those pictures that really capture her beauty in which I also appear, I tend to crop myself out using imaging tools. I like them better that way, without me.

Now, when I'm photographed, I feel I look like Mr. Potatohead, which is not to insult a fresh Mr. Potatohead, but one made after the Potato has been stored in the closet too long, left out in the rain, or in the sun.

I had to give a talk on line recently, and I had to ask my assistant in preparing for it with a picture, if we could find any picture that was remotely appealing. (She's a good kid, and managed to get something not entirely indecent by making me laugh when taking new pictures.)

One of the remarkable things about my wife, which I never really understood, was that among women that beautiful in a purely physical way, she had no trace of vanity; knowing her well, I understand that too, was psychological; her emotional state when I first knew her didn't admit to beauty in herself, although it did among us puerile men.

And I do think that many people have experienced, as I have, thinking a person beautiful when first seeing them until something about them focused one's attention on their physical flaws and makes them less attractive, or conversely, someone who seemed plain until they came to be seen as extremely beautiful because of something in their manner.

I'm interested to know how people felt about their appearance and more importantly, how they felt about their physical appearance was affected by their psychological state.

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Objectively speaking I'm probably just garden-variety homely, Ocelot II Oct 24 #1
What Ocelot said. quaint Oct 24 #10
I've never had True Dough Oct 25 #16
Beauty is a Lie JoseBalow Oct 24 #2
Similar to: Twinkle, Twinkle, little star keithbvadu2 Oct 24 #3
I like that wit. A joke from Abraham Lincoln... NNadir Oct 24 #4
At one point in the Lincoln -- Douglas debates, Douglas accused Lincoln of being two faced. rsdsharp Oct 25 #34
Yes, I know that story, a classic. Thanks for the reminder. n/t. NNadir Oct 25 #36
I think I am very attractive- but I haven't really looked closely at myself in a mirror for years Redleg Oct 24 #5
Very good. Are you also happy with yourself as a person? Do you feel satisfied with your life? Feel free... NNadir Oct 24 #6
Sure- my looks don't seem to have much impact on my psychological well-being Redleg Oct 29 #53
That's good to hear. As physically unattractive as I am now... NNadir Oct 29 #55
That is good to hear- although I hope you don't leave anytime soon Redleg Oct 30 #58
Beware of the mirror. Sometimes it tells the truth. Sometimes we do not listen. keithbvadu2 Oct 24 #7
LOL Redleg Oct 29 #54
Don't give a sh.. medium ugly. duncang Oct 24 #8
I confess to getting physically uglier as I age, although ozempic has taken a bit of the edge off, but that said... NNadir Oct 24 #9
I wouldn't snag lightning. Solly Mack Oct 24 #11
I have kind of a different take on attractiveness. LuckyCharms Oct 24 #12
A good and thoughtful answer. n/t. NNadir Oct 24 #13
I bet True Dough Oct 25 #17
C'mon True Dough. LuckyCharms Oct 25 #19
We're still communicating. True Dough Oct 25 #20
You left your boxer briefs on my bedroom floor, and my wife found them. LuckyCharms Oct 25 #23
Yeah, but you didn't tell her True Dough Oct 25 #24
Damnit! I thought because you didn't answer me quickly... LuckyCharms Oct 25 #26
You're always a winner True Dough Oct 25 #27
Well thank you. People do tell me I'm a "real winner". LuckyCharms Oct 25 #28
I am middle aged to old, Kali Oct 25 #14
I agree with you about invisibility not being all bad. There was a time in my life when I WAS invisible more or... NNadir Oct 25 #15
mostly I enjoy it Kali Oct 25 #25
There was a time in my life, when despairing of ever being in love again, I resolved to spend my time doing what I... NNadir Oct 25 #38
This is absolute wisdom! GenThePerservering Oct 30 #61
At best, I'm an average-looking bloke True Dough Oct 25 #18
You're a beautiful man, True Dough, and I bet your LuckyCharms Oct 25 #21
I'm more of a True Dough Oct 25 #22
Aw jeez dweller Oct 25 #31
I like True Dough Oct 25 #32
Not really dweller Oct 25 #33
I always considered myself average looking. I lost my wife four years ago and after grieving for a couple of years... brush Oct 25 #29
After my mother died, my father, who had lost most of his teeth and most of his hair, started dating at my suggestion. NNadir Oct 25 #35
I appear as a wise Senior lady who smiles easily. Tikki Oct 25 #30
And that, of course, is beautiful. n/t. NNadir Oct 25 #37
I like saying "Face courtesy of General Motors..." Archae Oct 25 #39
You're better looking that I am, not that I'm going to try running into a Buick to improve my looks. I did... NNadir Oct 25 #40
You look fine to me. Boomerproud Oct 26 #50
Interesting. I was raised Catholic-guilt/modesty, yes doting feminine relatives goofing yet UTUSN Oct 25 #41
It was a problem similar to that my wife had when young. I remember once when she visited me when we were still... NNadir Oct 26 #42
One thing I've found is it is impossible to be jealous of physical beauty when the person is kind. quaint Oct 26 #43
Neither. I always considered myself average sakabatou Oct 26 #44
I have never.... Dem4life1234 Oct 26 #45
That would be my point, with which you apparently agree. Who one is is more more important than how one looks. NNadir Oct 26 #46
I'm not photogenic Niagara Oct 26 #47
Nice personal shot. NNadir Oct 26 #48
Hahaha :) Niagara Oct 26 #49
OMG... LuckyCharms Oct 26 #51
I am working Goatguy Oct 26 #52
I feel I am pretty plain and unappealing. My husband disagrees. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Oct 29 #56
We haven't met, but I'm guessing in this case your husband is absolutely right. NNadir Oct 29 #57
When I was growing up, I thought I was ugly. Aristus Oct 30 #59
I was always called "interesting looking" GenThePerservering Oct 30 #60
Looking interesting goes well with being interesting. I can't say that I know men who "neg" and "rag" to women... NNadir Oct 31 #63
I was a cute kid, but... LudwigPastorius Oct 31 #62
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