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jtuck004

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42. First condition of joining - "You are a worker (not an employer);"
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:29 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Sat Sep 14, 2013, 03:39 PM - Edit history (1)


What about democratically run co-operative business? Are they all seen as workers? Those are worker-owners, yet they have interests that are the same as workers everywhere. They are the embodiment of what Bill Haywood knew this movement and power could achieve, and where he parted with what I see as the traditional "government ownership" meme associated with "socialism". So just wondering...

Is there anything like an auxiliary of unemployed, craft-less people as an arm of the IWW?, Maybe subsidized, no dues, or $1 a year, get them in the fold so to speak, offer them education they can't get anywhere else?

We live in a different time. When Haywood was organizing people were were shot, hung, jailed, imprisoned for not helping the wealthy take their money, in a time before organizing got some legal protection, and before Gompers and his crew sided with the wealthy. Now people are sent food stamps, income tax subsidies, unemployment, many of those put in place to keep them from seeking to join with others or march in the streets, or because they did. Now that motivation that would have driven them to seek out the IWW is gone, so there is really no reason that _they_ see, (which is the most important thing for motivation). They will never hear any of this stuff in school beyond a few meaningless dates, largely no critical discussion, and even less chance if they go to most colleges.

Is there an effort to bring these ideas to that crowd?

Even as a commie, I love the IWW.......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #1
It's for commies, too, comrade! Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #2
IWW in it's charter is non political Taverner Jul 2012 #31
I was being tongue-in-cheek. Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2012 #32
I know - hard to smile in type :) Taverner Jul 2012 #33
:) Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2012 #34
Stop Comm Fibbing srjmsbnd Nov 2012 #38
Can be a problem when one knows from "hearing". Go to a meeting yourself, then decide. <G> n/t jtuck004 May 2015 #52
I'll let Starry make the decision on un-pinning TBF Dec 2011 #3
Hi TBF ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #4
Yeah, I hadn't thought too much about the pinning thing socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #5
That seems like a good idea. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #6
You're all right. We're ALL feeling our way around socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #7
Whenever you get a chance. Starry Messenger Dec 2011 #9
Thank you ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #10
"Resource Post" - love that idea TBF Dec 2011 #8
I think that it's a MUST for us since we've STILL got a lot socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #12
Sounds great to me - Welcome & Resources - agree completely. TBF Dec 2011 #13
as a reader, I like this being pinned.. ellenrr Sep 2013 #47
There are some who are not eligible for membership. Scruffy1 Dec 2011 #20
Good to see you here, Scruffy socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #21
Okay, I requested white_wolf add this to his resource list. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #11
Are you still in school, FA? TBF Dec 2011 #14
I work as a productivity analyst (ironic, eh?) and resource planner ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #16
sahm is stay at home mom TBF Dec 2011 #18
My real goal is to win the lottery. ;) Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author auspicious Jan 2012 #22
Unpinned because I just added the link to the Resource thread and we decided to only have two sticky white_wolf Dec 2011 #15
Thank you, white_wolf. nt Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #17
I felt it was only fair to repin this post since there was not enough room in the resource thread. white_wolf Jan 2012 #23
Good call wolf........ socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #24
Occupy the DOE ChalkFace Jan 2012 #25
Hey ChalkFace why don't you make this a separate post? socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #26
I'm a member! WOTWU! Taverner Jan 2012 #27
I like it libodem Feb 2012 #28
Spam deleted by Ian David (MIR Team) Global Teach-In Mar 2012 #29
Are retired workers included? jwirr Jun 2012 #30
Certainly yes limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #36
T-Bone Slim (Matti Huhta) and Hiski Salomaa tama Sep 2012 #35
Excellent! I watched the girl playing chords. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #40
One of my all time favourites . . . Unca Adverse Jul 2014 #50
I want a Dues Rebate srjmsbnd Nov 2012 #37
I'll bring it up at the next meeting ... Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #39
Violence of the most violent sort is the only way we will ever prevail in this struggle. jtuck004 Dec 2012 #41
First condition of joining - "You are a worker (not an employer);" jtuck004 Jan 2013 #42
Like Alvarado Street Bakery in Santa Cruz? Well then yes, the owner would be worker... Taverner Sep 2013 #43
Exactly. Since that time I did some reading and the IWW does charter groups where jtuck004 Sep 2013 #44
If the IWW blesses it, I bless it nt Taverner Sep 2013 #45
Yup. n/t. jtuck004 Sep 2013 #46
re: IWW history in the U.S.A. TheGoodNews Mar 2014 #48
Documentary on the IWW! TheGoodNews Mar 2014 #49
Hi. I don't think I am Socialist. Not yet, anyway. But I am pro- merrily Sep 2014 #51
Love it dump2020trump Sep 2018 #53
Last Night Y-T Jan 2019 #54
Dues paying member checkin in. Devil Child Feb 2019 #55
Card Carrying Member! nt RFCalifornia Oct 2021 #56
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