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Barack Obama
In reply to the discussion: Lay Off Obama [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)8. When I see some of the attacks from both sides of the aisle, I remember Lao Tze:
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Those who know do not tell; those who tell do not know.Simplicity, patience, compassion. These three are your greatest treasures.
Wise men don't need to prove their point. Men who need to prove their point aren't wise.
If you overesteem great men, people become powerless.
And this in particular:
A leader is best when people barely know that he exists, not so good when people obey and acclaim him, worst when they despise him. Fail to honor people, They fail to honor you. But of a good leader, who talks little, when his work is done, his aims fulfilled, they will all say, "We did this ourselves."
I've seen a lot of abuse heaped on Obama. He would offer those who were against him, what they seemed to want as a peace offering, so they could not complain later in a just manner.
Then his 'own' side turned on him viciously, inciting so much hatred that the 'other' side heard them.
Then both sides joined to oppose that which he did not want to begin with, made him the bad guy. And the bad thing did not happen because people of both sides found common ground.
And both sides claimed victory, over him and the evil idea. Then they said,
"We did this ourselves."
Yes, they did it themselves from both sides, seeing what it was. He laid it out for them to choose. He didn't, like the wise man, need to prove his point or win their praise.
The goal is to make life better for all, not a victory for only half of the people. This is what justice, compassion and equality require for peace.
I read Lao Tze everyday during my teens, so these words percolate up from time to time. I googled to get the exact words for you.
Thanks for the thread.
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Also seeing a lot of Sarah Palin, Louie Gohmert, etc. support on DU the last few days. DOH!
freshwest
Aug 2013
#22
Nope. Two on Gohmert, Sarah's quotes used as posts and OP, an OP with Sarah's view on Syria...
freshwest
Aug 2013
#43
Perhaps. However, it would help if you clearly designate the behavior or person to whom you refer
IrishAyes
Sep 2013
#209
Sometimes it feels like we have been invaded by the far right mud slingers. It wouldn't be so
lumpy
Aug 2013
#41
K & R, good post, I am ready to start building a good base to win the House in 2014. I think
Thinkingabout
Aug 2013
#4
When I see some of the attacks from both sides of the aisle, I remember Lao Tze:
freshwest
Aug 2013
#8
Ha! When I read "Lay Off Obama", I interpreted it as a call to pink-slip him!
Pterodactyl
Aug 2013
#19
So you don't take responsibility for your own behavior? Others are responsible to stop you?
IrishAyes
Sep 2013
#189
If yo don't like the DU group rules, YOU need to leave. Go start your own
kestrel91316
Aug 2013
#154
You are free to join protected groups if you would like--no one is stopping you.
MADem
Aug 2013
#162
The lie that MSNBC is the liberal equivalent to Faux News is just that: A FUCKING LIE!!!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Aug 2013
#32
I know that too, but the hero worship of whoever, makes sure it is forgotten.
freshwest
Aug 2013
#68
Then you have been sleeping or can't read, because DU is a viper's nest of anti-Obama ad hominem
kestrel91316
Aug 2013
#156
It's a statement of opinion - yours. Not holy writ. And yes, it's personal. Don't lie.
IrishAyes
Sep 2013
#192
The BOG is actually the most tolerant group at DU. We wish all well but enjoy this forum for
grantcart
Aug 2013
#89
You can piss all over Obama an the entire rest of DU. You CANNOT come into BOG and do it.
kestrel91316
Aug 2013
#157
Have you seen the kind of snarks we deal with here on a regular basis? I didn't take your first post
freshwest
Aug 2013
#99
And you know they're running back to GD highfiving each for 'sticking it to the man' like juveniles.
freshwest
Aug 2013
#71
I've gone nuclear and am rigorously putting Obama haters who crash BOG on ignore. And I don't care
kestrel91316
Aug 2013
#161
It's kind of like having our very own Elm Tree right here in DU's front yard, isn't it?
Hekate
Sep 2013
#180
The post was titled that, it's not Sheshe's statement. If you'd read before dissing her, you'd know.
freshwest
Aug 2013
#94
You're using such carte blanche advice as an excuse to behave like a 2 year old?
IrishAyes
Sep 2013
#194
I'd enjoy it more if there weren't DUers calling for his impeachment.
great white snark
Aug 2013
#128
Great article and a good measure of it's veracity is how many haters are hating on it.
great white snark
Aug 2013
#125
Such bullshit. This is just like the posts accusing people who disagree with Obama of being racists
Th1onein
Aug 2013
#132
"You willfully stampede in here because a pro-Obama post made it to the greatest page and front page
Grateful for Hope
Sep 2013
#207