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In reply to the discussion: 6 Sexist Things Women Say [View all]
 

lumberjack_jeff

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15. Let's explore this.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:56 AM
Oct 2013

You are saying that you think society is more biased against women. That's a valid viewpoint, and one that is shared by most americans. The president has said that the fact that women as a group make 77% of what men as a group do "for the same work" (which is false) is a huge national priority and that laws need to be written to address it. The fact that the problem as described doesn't exist in part because it's been illegal for fifty years doesn't appear to affect the rhetoric much.

On the other hand, daughters are 50% more likely to go to college than sons, and instead of suggesting government action to correct this imbalance, the president describes this imbalance itself as a "great achievement"

It's been known for 100 years that men are suffering greater health risks leading to premature death. Men die younger from every preventable cause than women. So, now we have an opportunity to fix things through the ACA. What do we do? We raise men's cost of insurance by passing the 30% more that is spent on women's care onto the men.

A good indicator of bias is what you're willing to do to intervene when you see injustice, unfairness or disadvantage. In the cases where that unfairness affects men, the most common reaction is to pat ourselves on the back.

The most damaging kinds of bias are the ones we cherish.

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6 Sexist Things Women Say [View all] Bonobo Oct 2013 OP
to be fair, technically, all men ARE animals. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #1
How many animals can shave their balls? Major Nikon Oct 2013 #2
See, that sort of thing never gets old. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #3
Meh... I "get" it, but I don't trouble myself about it too much... nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #4
If I'm going to get wrapped around an axle about sexism... lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #5
I can mostly agree with that. And while I may deplore the existence of a shallow, mindless culture nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #6
Some problems are the result of misandry. Some are not. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #9
"Disproportionate share of harm"? Maybe not overall, but a great many men are being harmed greatly. nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #11
Do you think that men should be equally represented on college campuses? lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #13
Do I? I suppose so, in theory. But why is that one particular number/statistic so important? nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #14
Let's explore this. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #15
As I said, all the issues you've raised are real and legitimate, I just don't think they're nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #18
I'm not suggesting that those things represent misandry. I am suggesting that they represent bias. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #19
Okay. Not sure I see it that way, but I get what you mean at least. nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #20
Are you willing to argue the reverse? Major Nikon Oct 2013 #16
It is difficult to quantify, I admit. All I can tell you is that I don't feel disadvantaged, at all, nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #17
There are those who are disadvantaged on both sides of the gender divide Major Nikon Oct 2013 #21
The Kyriarchy Hurts Men pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #23
Thank you for your contribution and I totally agree. nt Bonobo Oct 2013 #24
This is interesting stuff. It has the ring of truth. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #25
Excellent term LadyHawkAZ Oct 2013 #26
:D It encompasses everything pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #27
Never said it was a big concern in my life either. Bonobo Oct 2013 #7
I agree that that kind of dickishness is unbecoming either way. Anyone who says things like that nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #8
"Dickishness"!!!! LOL! Bonobo Oct 2013 #10
Assholishness? I guess that's more gender neutral... nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #12
A++ Post. pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #22
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