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26. Sounds rosy. But the U.N. also projects a 41% world population increase by 2100
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:45 PM
Jul 2019

So like I say, those declining fertility projections are wonderful and all that, but we're a long way from population growth not being a big problem, especially if the countries with the high fertility (say 3 or more on average / women) reach the per capita resource consumption and pollution emissions of all kind as, say, China.

For example, the U.N. (in its 2019 report) projects Africa's current 1.3 billion population to reach 2.5 billion in 2051 (and nearly 4.3 billion in 2100). (using that Interactive Data tool https://population.un.org/wpp/ ).

If their per-capita impact remains the same as now, it wouldn't be that big a deal on a global basis (locally, that's a way different matter). But if their per-capita impact reaches the level of China's today, it's a whole 'nuther story.

It's a big ticking time bomb. But I also have hope (#14 below)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1127&pid=129133

(Unfortunately I'd add that I think environmental factors and resource limitations will be the biggest reason for population falling short of projections).

I lived a number of years in Lagos, Nigeria around 1967-1971. Am so saddened to see Lake Chad almost entirely dried up, and living standards falling (I can dig up a recent article about that).

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I hope humans get their act together but I don't see any action. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2019 #1
I have decided that the "birth control"/"climate change" meme is racist OKIsItJustMe Jul 2019 #2
I have a hybrid car, rarely drive, keep my temperature affordable BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2019 #3
Your hybrid probably produces less CO₂ per mile than my (old) conventional car OKIsItJustMe Jul 2019 #4
Again, the global population rate is growing and that is a problem. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2019 #5
The global population is growing. The population growth rate is not. OKIsItJustMe Jul 2019 #6
Since 1980 the world's population growth has been linear, at 80 million per year. The_jackalope Jul 2019 #9
Thank you for explaining so well. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2019 #18
I would like me to point out that climate change is just one of many impacts from pop. growth NickB79 Jul 2019 #10
Which is more responsible? OKIsItJustMe Jul 2019 #11
Dunno, maths says total waste equals population X waste per capita progree Jul 2019 #16
"low fertility countries lead, by far, in both waste per capita and total waste" OKIsItJustMe Jul 2019 #20
Sounds rosy. But the U.N. also projects a 41% world population increase by 2100 progree Jul 2019 #26
"Population Momentum" OKIsItJustMe Jul 2019 #28
Reducing population growth will help in many ways other than just GHG emissions progree Jul 2019 #29
That may be OKIsItJustMe Jul 2019 #30
And reducing population growth will help. progree Jul 2019 #31
Another reason African women have a lot of children (on average) progree Jul 2019 #27
Mother Nature doesn't give a damn about per capita numbers NickB79 Jul 2019 #23
So... nature only cares about gross emissions for entire nations? OKIsItJustMe Jul 2019 #25
Yes yes absolutely yes. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2019 #19
Yup. Or nearly 11 billion by 2100, despite those nice declining fertility graphs progree Jul 2019 #7
Yep. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2019 #8
If you want to decrease the population, cut health care OKIsItJustMe Jul 2019 #13
I donated my farm to Population Connection progree Jul 2019 #15
It is "a modest proposal" OKIsItJustMe Jul 2019 #21
As Dwight said on The Office-- We need a new plague. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2019 #17
Well, another strategy might be called "World War III" OKIsItJustMe Jul 2019 #22
Sad but true, population control has been war and sickness. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2019 #24
Don't get me wrong. I'm not against population control. OKIsItJustMe Jul 2019 #12
True, or even if they had a per-capita emission the same as China, we would be screwed progree Jul 2019 #14
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