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In reply to the discussion: Netanyahu calls for ‘direct, bilateral negotiations’ with Palestinians [View all]Israeli
(4,339 posts)21. I know leftynyc......
...." VERY clear. " .
I remember too .......although I would not use the term " their own " .
ref : http://www.counterpunch.org/2005/07/09/the-war-of-the-colors-in-israel/
Those who fly the orange ribbon know this perfectly well. They swear to paint the country orange and aim to change its way of life from the bottom up. As they see it, the laws of the Knesset are invalid if they conflict with religious law (the Halakha), as interpreted by the nationalist Zionist rabbis, a nationalist-messianic faction with a fascist fringe. Government decisions are null and void if they are opposed to the will of God. And God, as is well known, speaks through the mouths of the settlers leaders. (One can only say: God help God, if He needs spokesmen like these!)
Those who fly the blue know some clearly, some vaguely that they are struggling for a different vision of Israel. Some have a thought-out conception of a democratic, liberal and secular Israel, living at peace with the Arab world. Others have a more general vision of a sane and decent Israel, where the majority decides through the Knesset. Either way, the difference between blue and orange is striking and unmistakable.
Those who fly the blue know some clearly, some vaguely that they are struggling for a different vision of Israel. Some have a thought-out conception of a democratic, liberal and secular Israel, living at peace with the Arab world. Others have a more general vision of a sane and decent Israel, where the majority decides through the Knesset. Either way, the difference between blue and orange is striking and unmistakable.
The importance of this is more than symbolic. More and more people are becoming convinced that the current struggle is essentially one between the State of Israel and the State of the Settlers a democratic state on the one side, a nationalist-messianic state on the other. That is an important conception, which may have far-reaching implications for the future. It is the start of the real separation that between the State of Israel and the settlers.
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Those lines put Jordan in charge of the West Bank and Egypt in charge of Gaza
oberliner
Apr 2016
#24
" the IDF removed them from Gaza as a show of good will. And what did they get for it? "
Israeli
May 2016
#50
This government is made up of all those that stood against the disengagement leftynyc....
Israeli
May 2016
#54
So triggering a war with a Hamas takeover of the W.Bank = Chance for 2 states in your view.
shira
May 2016
#72
"Rubbish" being your usual idea of a dignified answer I suppose.....................n/t
kayecy
Apr 2016
#42
Well, it was 7 years ago when we last discussed your situation in Nicosia, Cyprus.
shira
May 2016
#51
To the best of my knowledge I have never spent more than a few hours in Nicosia...........
kayecy
May 2016
#62
This is hilarious. Why would you put Nicosia in your profile if you were only there for hours?
shira
May 2016
#71
Ethnic cleansing is racism but it seems to be quiet popular in your Jewish state...........
kayecy
May 2016
#43
I notice you don't attempt to deny it.....Racism is ugly even in Israel.......n/t
kayecy
May 2016
#46
While you seem to not understand the difference between Mandatory Palestine and Transjordan, that
Little Tich
May 2016
#58
It's actually possible that some of the descendants of those refugees might want to return, and they
Little Tich
May 2016
#77
And if people returning results in a terrible civil war, genocide, ethnic cleansing...
shira
May 2016
#65
I don't think that Israeli Jews are so bloodthirsty that they would kill all Palestinians trying to
Little Tich
May 2016
#78