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Igel

(35,885 posts)
9. Yes, no, and maybe.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:12 PM
Jun 2016

1. There probably have been isolated incidents of well contamination. Is this policy? No. But it's easy to generalize and say "Israelis are doing this" and have that understood to mean "As a rule, Israelis are doing this" or "Israelis habitually do this in general." It's a fallacy of overgeneralization.

2. The report usually cited also includes examples of settlements where the sewage isn't treated and flows back down onto Israeli-cultivated lands. Many of these are illegal. They're not policy, they're not removed. They're a problem for all sides, and the government is, by and large, hamstrung.

3. The same report that's considered authoritative when it suits activists also found that the vast majority of well and groundwater pollution from untreated sewage results not from Israeli settlements but Palestinian villages without treatment plants or with broken treatment plants. This parallels the problems in Gaza, in which most of the problem is locally produced but only the part of the problem that can be attributed to Israelis really matters. We focus on a small part of the issue because they're outsiders and enemies instead of fixing most of the problem by owning up to their own responsibility. It's self-serving but ultimately just hurts the locals more than it hurts the enemy.

A lot of politics is the same. Brexit, for example. A lot of US politics. Nasty, that sort of principled non-self-reflexion.

Unforuntately, I suspect some are going to believe this garbage still_one Jun 2016 #1
Antisemites always believe everything Jews are accused of, without thinking twice. n/t shira Jun 2016 #2
of course still_one Jun 2016 #5
Automatically? Or after a dozen instances? DetlefK Jun 2016 #3
You believe settlers are poisoning wells? Yes or No? n/t shira Jun 2016 #4
I don't know, but I'm leaning towards Yes. DetlefK Jun 2016 #6
Do you also believe the Jews and "penis enlargement " stuff too ? King_David Jun 2016 #7
Do you believe the "Israel's policies will eventually lead to peace"-stuff, too? DetlefK Jun 2016 #17
The OP was about conspiracy theories against Jews King_David Jun 2016 #19
I'm sorry. I thought, the topic was conspiracy-theories about Israel in general. (Because "penis".) DetlefK Jun 2016 #21
Your last article was penned by Joe Catron, who called for Hezbollah to bomb Tel Aviv.... shira Jun 2016 #8
So many accusations of burning or breaking down olive trees.... shira Jun 2016 #10
Seriously shira ..... Israeli Jun 2016 #12
Yes, seriously. Find pictures or video of settlers caught in the act.... shira Jun 2016 #18
It's unbelievable that anyone would try to defend the extremist settlers... Violet_Crumble Jun 2016 #23
No one is defending extremist settlers. They're an absolute cancer.... shira Jun 2016 #25
The owner of one of those sites you linked to certainly is.... Violet_Crumble Jun 2016 #27
Yup " unbelievable " ..... Israeli Jun 2016 #30
Yes, no, and maybe. Igel Jun 2016 #9
Israeli university cancels prize to Breaking the Silence shira Jun 2016 #11
What it means when occupation is the consensus......... Israeli Jun 2016 #13
Haaretz editorial: An Israeli University Teaches a Lesson in Spinelessness Little Tich Jun 2016 #15
From what I understand, it's an unsubstantiated claim made by one person - not BTS officially. Little Tich Jun 2016 #14
Yehuda Shaul is the bad guy ...... Israeli Jun 2016 #16
So you don't have a problem with Yehuda Shaul's medieval jew hating libel, right? shira Jun 2016 #22
Avner Gvaryahu has written many articles for BtS & he's a big liar too.... shira Jun 2016 #20
Whether some accusations are "centuries old antisemitic Jew hating libels" depends on the context. Little Tich Jun 2016 #29
BTS didn't make the allegation at all. Shira posted an OP the other day that said so... Violet_Crumble Jun 2016 #24
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Violet_Crumble Jun 2016 #28
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