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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
28. Are you implying that Shaked didn't agree with the content of the article she posted?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:47 AM
Jul 2016

Just for the heck of it, let's have a look at the excerpt she posted from an unpublished article by Uri Elitzur, and Shaked's own rebuttal of the criticism in Jerusalem Post. I know this is getting a little bit off-topic, but I think that it's worthwhile to show that it's the Israeli government that's the problem, not the Arab MKs who stand up against racism and injustice. This will be a lenghty read, but it will help in showing whether Shaked was indeed inciting to genocide or not:

Netanyahu appoints Ayelet Shaked—who called for genocide of Palestinians—as Justice Minister in new government
Source: Mondoweiss, May 6, 2015
(snip, translation of Shaked's FB post of July 1)

The Palestinian people has declared war on us, and we must respond with war. Not an operation, not a slow-moving one, not low-intensity, not controlled escalation, no destruction of terror infrastructure, no targeted killings. Enough with the oblique references. This is a war. Words have meanings. This is a war. It is not a war against terror, and not a war against extremists, and not even a war against the Palestinian Authority. These too are forms of avoiding reality. This is a war between two people. Who is the enemy? The Palestinian people. Why? Ask them, they started.

I don’t know why it’s so hard for us to define reality with the simple words that language puts at our disposal. Why do we have to make up a new name for the war every other week, just to avoid calling it by its name. What’s so horrifying about understanding that the entire Palestinian people is the enemy? Every war is between two peoples, and in every war the people who started the war, that whole people, is the enemy. A declaration of war is not a war crime. Responding with war certainly is not. Nor is the use of the word “war”, nor a clear definition who the enemy is. Au contraire: the morality of war (yes, there is such a thing) is founded on the assumption that there are wars in this world, and that war is not the normal state of things, and that in wars the enemy is usually an entire people, including its elderly and its women, its cities and its villages, its property and its infrastructure.

And the morality of war knows that it is not possible to refrain from hurting enemy civilians. It does not condemn the British air force, which bombed and totally destroyed the German city of Dresden, or the US planes that destroyed the cities of Poland and wrecked half of Budapest, places whose wretched residents had never done a thing to America, but which had to be destroyed in order to win the war against evil. The morals of war do not require that Russia be brought to trial, though it bombs and destroys towns and neighborhoods in Chechnya. It does not denounce the UN Peacekeeping Forces for killing hundreds of civilians in Angola, nor the NATO forces who bombed Milosevic’s Belgrade, a city with a million civilians, elderly, babies, women, and children. The morals of war accept as correct in principle, not only politically, what America has done in Afghanistan, including the massive bombing of populated places, including the creation of a refugee stream of hundreds of thousands of people who escaped the horrors of war, for thousands of whom there is no home to return to.

And in our war this is sevenfold more correct, because the enemy soldiers hide out among the population, and it is only through its support that they can fight. Behind every terrorist stand dozens of men and women, without whom he could not engage in terrorism. Actors in the war are those who incite in mosques, who write the murderous curricula for schools, who give shelter, who provide vehicles, and all those who honor and give them their moral support. They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads. Now this also includes the mothers of the martyrs, who send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They should follow their sons, nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there.

Read more: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/netanyahu-palestinians-government/

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Exposing militant leftist propaganda
Source: Jerusalem Post, by AYELET SHAKED, 07/16/2014
(snip)
In a story headlined "Israeli Politician Declares War on the Palestinian People," Resnick actually suggested I compared Palestinian children to “little snakes,” and accused me of fomenting Palestinian genocide. This vilification was later picked up by several bloggers and reporters, all of whom were convinced of this frightening notion, without even a scrap of fact or truth.

Let's start with my July 1 Facebook post. It was written some 12 years ago, but never published, by a dear man, the recently departed journalist Uri Elitzur. The gist of his article was that once one side in a war attacks the other side's civilians, they can no longer morally claim a special status for their own civilians.

Go ahead, ask a Hebrew speaking friend to translate it for you, they'll confirm this is what my Facebook post was about. But you'll find not a trace of that in Resnick's account. Perhaps it's his own ignorance of the Hebrew language. After all, he got the text from Electronic Intifada, a website dedicated to daily and hourly vilification of my country.

All Resnick had to do to make Elitzur's sober, legally minded discussion sound like a speech made by Hitler himself, was to cherry pick words out of context. A call for the indiscriminate killing of children is a terrible thing. But what if the statement was that any time you kill our children, you're exposing your own children to the same fate? Still unsettling, but rational when you consider that they purposely use their kids as human shields. It's not a call for indiscriminate murder.

And then Resnick turned to character assassination. He cited an attack on me by Haaretz. They said I was “representative of an ideology unembarrassed by its racism.”

Haaretz, unfortunately, may look like The New York Times, but it is far from being a liberal, curious newspaper in the Anglo Saxon tradition. Expecting Haaretz to write about a political opponent like myself in an honest, informative—if critical—manner, is a little like expecting Gideon Resnick to offer an unbiased, honest citation from a pro-Zionist post.

Read more: http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Exposing-militant-leftist-propaganda-363062
Dumping terror supporting MK's = making Palestinians disappear, says +972. shira Jul 2016 #1
:)...... Israeli Jul 2016 #2
It's ironic that a full-blown fascist like Lieberman is making comparisons with "Mein Kampf"... Little Tich Jul 2016 #4
Full blown fascists are those who deliberately target & murder Jews.... shira Jul 2016 #5
So a card carrying member of Kach like Lieberman isn't a fascist? Little Tich Jul 2016 #6
Kahanists are fascists, but Hamas & their supporters within BDS are arguably moreso.... shira Jul 2016 #8
It seems as if you think that Lieberman isn't a fascist. Little Tich Jul 2016 #11
Do you know what a real fascist is? I'm not sure you do... shira Jul 2016 #17
Absolutely ..... Israeli Jul 2016 #13
I have a problem with the idea that some cultures are better than others, Little Tich Jul 2016 #14
So do I Little Tich...... Israeli Jul 2016 #15
Interesting article, thanks. n/t TubbersUK Jul 2016 #3
As with most of the nonsense from 972mag... this is a flat-out lie FBaggins Jul 2016 #7
It's an entire industry of lies promoted & supported by pathological liars. n/t shira Jul 2016 #9
The sadly entertaining part is that they don't realize how badly they're lying to themselves FBaggins Jul 2016 #10
Do you think that other democratic countries should adopt similar laws? Little Tich Jul 2016 #12
Is your memory that short? Or is it just that "creative"? FBaggins Jul 2016 #19
If you can't understand the difference between ousting politicians for moral turpitude and having a Little Tich Jul 2016 #21
inciting terrorism is more than a different political position 6chars Jul 2016 #22
If someone did, it would be illegal in most countries... Little Tich Jul 2016 #23
thanks for the lie from Mondoweiss 6chars Jul 2016 #25
Are you implying that Shaked didn't agree with the content of the article she posted? Little Tich Jul 2016 #28
the content she posted obviously isn't the same as what mondeweiss said 6chars Jul 2016 #29
Frankly, if the article was about killing Jews instead of Palestinians, it would be just as bad. Little Tich Jul 2016 #30
the snakes in question are the terrorists 6chars Jul 2016 #32
Adding to the list from earlier in the week FBaggins Jul 2016 #20
Well FBaggins..... Israeli Jul 2016 #16
It isn't very complicated at all FBaggins Jul 2016 #18
:)....... Israeli Jul 2016 #24
So it's MKs who decide on expulsion? TubbersUK Jul 2016 #26
You've confused expulsions and recalls FBaggins Jul 2016 #27
No, I'm aware of the difference TubbersUK Jul 2016 #31
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