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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
12. Thanks Metatron
Tue May 22, 2012, 12:27 PM
May 2012

I've fallen in intellectual love with several posters in Meta this week and your appreciation is flattering.

Did you read this gem by Obamanaut? I just saw it and it left me speechless.

"Redneck" women,TG women etc., were very much not wanted, and were often actively denied participation. They were considered an embarrassment, even by people we often lionized as leaders and pioneers of feminism (ie Gloria Steinem). Steinem has since walked back most of her views on these marginalized groups of women, but she wrote and spoke some pretty hurtful stuff. I don't mean to pick on Gloria, she's just the most well-known.

Also, remember that the above groups of women were often more than one of these categories: a redneck lesbian working in a textile mill for low wages, a black blue collar women working as a maid, etal. Many didn't have the luxury to discuss feminist political theory: they were trying to put food on the table and not get fired for trying to unionize while they worked full time and took GED classes at night.

There IS a privilege for white, straight women with a decent amount of money that many other women don't have. That doesn't mean there is an "Oppression Olympics," but rather that they have less factors that cause their oppression (unless one is disabled). Their main oppression is gender. Not race or class or sexual orientation or education. I can't remember which DU poster said this once, maybe Lioness Priyanka? But it's stayed with me. I'm paraphrasing, but they said you fight about power struggles within your marriage, while we fight for the right to marry. That is very illustrative, I think.

This is why intersectionality also comes into play so much today in modern American society and feminism.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1240&pid=97490

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Another good read JustAnotherGen May 2012 #1
I would like to think not too Catherina May 2012 #3
Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #2
I can't speak for the forum Catherina May 2012 #4
Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #8
I appreciate your sensitivity about it Catherina May 2012 #9
Like Catherina, I would welcome your posts kdmorris May 2012 #6
Don't be silly, of course you're welcome. Neoma May 2012 #10
Excellent points, Neoma. Metatron May 2012 #15
I don't know much about the definitions kdmorris May 2012 #5
That was well worded Catherina May 2012 #11
I just got a chance to read this kdmorris May 2012 #18
I'm really glad you posted this here, Catherina Metatron May 2012 #7
Thanks Metatron Catherina May 2012 #12
Thanks for reposting that insightful comment - I had missed it. Metatron May 2012 #14
I knew there was a silver lining to all that Meta drama Catherina May 2012 #16
bookmarking. ty Cath. Whisp May 2012 #13
Anytime Whisp Catherina May 2012 #17
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