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Gormy Cuss

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49. Not my best phrasing, for certain

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 06:03 PM

Jul 2012

I really shouldn't try debating when I'm barely awake. I've rephrased it.

What I meant was that I have noticed that tolerance for rape jokes has diminished greatly over the past 30-40 years. It's one of the positive outcomes of the 1970s feminists movements. It was more or less acceptable to tell rape jokes years ago as long as the word rape wasn't used. Men would "have their way" with women instead. The subtext was that once the man forced himself on her, she'd love it and him.

4thlaw keeps pointing out that there is acceptability of men-to-men rape jokes and I agree that they should not be tolerated any more than men raping women jokes.

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CEO, Comedy Central: Take Daniel Tosh off the air [View all] Ian David Jul 2012 OP

They did the right thing. He really over step over the line. southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #1

Did they cancel him and I didn't hear about it yet? n/t Ian David Jul 2012 #2

Yes they did. Not even a rerun. What the heck, right now am not even getting the comedy southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #4

He's on on Comedy Central on my cable right now. Where did you see he's been canceled for sure? pnwest Jul 2012 #29

You are confusing the Direct TV dispute with the dispute over Tosh's remarks at a club. nt MADem Jul 2012 #30

Eh, I don't know. Callmecrazy Jul 2012 #3

I call you more than crazy. Rape is not fun, funny or comical. Raster Jul 2012 #5

And yet "don't drop the soap" jokes are rampant and don't even raise an eyebrow 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #33

Welcome, Callmecrazy. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #7

I don't think a rape joke is funny either Callmecrazy Jul 2012 #8

"It's not my place to ruin everybody's night" could be used as an excuse for a lot of things. yardwork Jul 2012 #21

Daniel Tosh and rape jokes: Still not funny Ian David Jul 2012 #6

I agree with this. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #9

Signed kdmorris Jul 2012 #10

I created the petition. alissemarie Jul 2012 #11

It's not a violation of his freedom of speech kdmorris Jul 2012 #12

He's still free to speak. caseymoz Jul 2012 #13

Welcome to DU. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #14

Only the government can violate somebody's constitutional right to free speech. yardwork Jul 2012 #19

Welcome to DU! Lisa0825 Jul 2012 #27

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #40

I agree with a petition to get him off comedy central. One point about the 1st Amendment, though: Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #41

Good petition Alisse. stevenleser Jul 2012 #46

Thank you for the petition Fresh_Start Jul 2012 #71

This is not his most offensive joke, either. caseymoz Jul 2012 #15

There's a difference between being an offensive douche, and subjecting someone to sexual terrorism. Ian David Jul 2012 #16

My comment on the petition caseymoz Jul 2012 #17

Very well said. n/t Ian David Jul 2012 #25

There is something wrong with him. He does sound like a criminal. yardwork Jul 2012 #20

I was being sarcastic. caseymoz Jul 2012 #22

The evidence speaks for itself. yardwork Jul 2012 #24

I guess it's good that I don't know who the fuck he is then. Neoma Jul 2012 #18

Never thought he was funny, and now hifiguy Jul 2012 #23

Signed. Never thought he was funny. He is obnoxious. Riley18 Jul 2012 #26

Does anyone have a video or a transcript of the exchange? n/t xocet Jul 2012 #28

Apparently not. It happened in a club setting. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #31

Stand-up is an art where almost all interruption is Heckling. slampoet Jul 2012 #65

I'm a musician. I know about interruptions from the room. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #74

As a fellow musician i can say slampoet Jul 2012 #75

"grew so loud that the young woman had to flee in fear." 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #32

Calling it "heckling" is a nice way to shift the blame Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #35

An audience member interrupting a comedian to tell him his jokes aren't funny 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #36

No, heckling needs to rise to the level of harassment or disruption. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #37

Yelling out things during his routine is not disrupting? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #38

But she didn't yell that, did she? She didn't yell anything that was an attack on the person. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #39

Telling a comedian that his jokes are not funny during his routine loud enough for him and the 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #42

Suggesting someone has been or should be raped by five men. What would you call that? Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #43

That wasn't heckling since he wasn't interrupting the show 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #44

I'm confused by this sentence: Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #47

Not my best phrasing, for certain Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #49

Ha! You and me, both. I had a long weekend, and I probably shouldn't try reading. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #50

Your first sentence is false, no DUer wanted a civil war. Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #61

Heh 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #62

Your first sentence was an insult to DU and its members Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #63

Yes saying that people here were upset about Joe "you lie" Wilson is clearly 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #64

Upset is different than 'civil war'. Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #70

So which is the insult 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #72

Melissa Harris Perry - DURHAM D Jul 2012 #34

GOOD! He can live in a dumpster for all I care. Rex Jul 2012 #45

Has he even attempted to apologize? stevenleser Jul 2012 #48

No. n/t Ian David Jul 2012 #53

Answered my own question, looks like he has apologized stevenleser Jul 2012 #54

He doesn't get he wasn't heckled obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #66

Mocking the powerful = comedy, mocking the powerless = cruelty arcane1 Jul 2012 #51

hey tosh, karmas a bitch -make a joke of that n/t Locrian Jul 2012 #52

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Only the government can censor. Private citizens and groups can opt to not hire someone. stevenleser Jul 2012 #58

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #56

Signed. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #57

It's the network's highest rated show Freddie Stubbs Jul 2012 #59

I would (hope) think the Daily Show or Colbert would have higher ratings azurnoir Jul 2012 #60

Unless it just happened, they haven't removed him obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #67

No they haven't so far it's just a petition azurnoir Jul 2012 #68

Removed him? The show was on last night Freddie Stubbs Jul 2012 #73

That's just sad. n/t Ian David Jul 2012 #69