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stevenleser

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63. I think there is a problem with terminology here. The conference is really for Seperatist Feminists
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 08:21 PM
Jul 2012

While the conference calls itself "RadFem2012" the actual term RadFem describes something very different than the views of the women attending that conference. The women attending that conference are more correctly described as Seperatist Feminists (See Below). My beliefs are closely aligned with Radical Feminists like Ellen Willis. She would not have approved of RadFem2012 or the beliefs of the people attending.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separatist_feminism

Separatist feminism is a form of radical feminism that holds that opposition to patriarchy is best done through focusing exclusively on women and girls. Some separatist feminists do not believe that men can make positive contributions to the feminist movement and that even well-intentioned men replicate the dynamics of patriarchy.

Author Marilyn Frye describes separatist feminism as "separation of various sorts or modes from men and from institutions, relationships, roles and activities that are male-defined, male-dominated, and operating for the benefit of males and the maintenance of male privilege—this separation being initiated or maintained, at will, by women."

In a tract on socialist feminism published in 1972, the Hyde Park Chapter of the Chicago Women's Liberation Union differentiated between Separatism as an "ideological position", and as a "tactical position" In the same document, they further distinguished between separatism as "personal practice" and as "political position".

Woo-hoo! Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #1
I'm doing backflips of joy right now Catherina Jun 2012 #2
It certainly does. Zorra Jun 2012 #3
Not good, but whatever keeps us bullying one another, right? He loved Big Brother Jun 2012 #4
im torn reading this thread . angelusuk1 Jun 2012 #5
Dear Scott Catherina Jun 2012 #26
thank you , angelusuk1 Jun 2012 #29
Feminism *still* is a fantastic concept Catherina Jun 2012 #30
Many MRA groups are listed as hate groups with the SPLC obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #31
im not ashamed of who I am angelusuk1 Jun 2012 #33
This is a Safe Have Group for feminists of all gemders obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #34
Obamanut, I will stand beside you and echo your concerns. MerryBlooms Jun 2012 #35
well ill make this post my last as it seems my first impressions of this site may have been wrong . angelusuk1 Jun 2012 #37
I don't think your impressions of this site were wrong Catherina Jun 2012 #38
Thank you, Merry obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #44
I'm sure they can find the owner of a field somewhere who won't object Zorra Jun 2012 #6
Well, yeah, that appears to be their goal. JoeyT Jun 2012 #7
All the RadFem blogs I've read say the same thing. Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #8
My God! Vanje Jun 2012 #9
I'm not even sure most cis guys think about theirs that much. Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #11
Unless you've got a hypersexuality problem. Neoma Jun 2012 #12
Lalalalala Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #13
That made me LOL! nt Vanje Jun 2012 #14
You might enjoy this too-- Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #16
I freakin' love this! LadyHawkAZ Jun 2012 #20
I got it off tumblr, it's up to nearly 1200 shares. Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #21
Thank you! n/t LadyHawkAZ Jun 2012 #22
It's perfect Catherina Jun 2012 #27
That is incredible! zappaman Jun 2012 #43
That's easy. Neoma Jun 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #18
You are related to Robert Tilton? Rex Jun 2012 #32
No... Neoma Jun 2012 #36
Same here! Currently they are somewhere in Africa. Rex Jun 2012 #42
It's astounding Catherina Jun 2012 #25
I'm not butthurt. eh? Whisp Jun 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #17
Butthurt... LadyHawkAZ Jun 2012 #19
Thank you! n/t Catherina Jun 2012 #28
I call Bullshit for $200 Alex. Catherina Jun 2012 #24
I have to disagree. LiberalAndProud Jun 2012 #50
bigots do deserve to be silence irrespective of gender. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2012 #59
Bigots are bigots. Period. Fritz Jul 2012 #62
K&R Jamastiene Jun 2012 #23
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #39
yeah...right cyberswede Jun 2012 #40
THAT was your first post here!?! Rex Jun 2012 #41
Welcome to DU! rrneck Jun 2012 #45
Oh. Vanje Jun 2012 #46
I tru to keep good thoughts and rrneck Jun 2012 #48
Pffffffffffft. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #47
Someone is bored obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #49
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #51
"the malignant social cancer it has become"? Catherina Jun 2012 #52
Don't ask that poster his view on reproductive choice. cyberswede Jun 2012 #53
Thanks for finding the confirmation. I read 2 comments there and had enough Catherina Jun 2012 #54
This person has been shown the door. cyberswede Jun 2012 #55
(Breathes sigh of relief) Catherina Jun 2012 #56
Oh man. That forum. Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #57
So are the PPR'd trolls in this thread all the same person or is this thread a magnet for that type? laconicsax Jun 2012 #58
We get a lot of zombies, who knows? Neoma Jun 2012 #60
I don't know Catherina Jun 2012 #61
I think there is a problem with terminology here. The conference is really for Seperatist Feminists stevenleser Jul 2012 #63
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