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Gun Control & RKBA

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)

7. "Lie much?" A lie like endorsing something you haven't tested?

Reply to flamin lib (Reply #6)

Sun May 15, 2016, 03:59 PM

May 2016

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=192266

That kind of lie? Or the one that counts only "threatening or attacks with a firearm" as
a defensive gun use? (Page six of the linked document).

Even if the 0.8% by the restricted definition were true, that's still 235,700
defensive gun uses (page 8)

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Defensive use of firearms, using the VPC's numbers... [View all] virginia mountainman May 2016 OP

Josh is just so quizzical discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #1

He really does not care one iota about his hypocrisy.. virginia mountainman May 2016 #2

MORE DEFENSIVE USES THAN GUN DEATHS. beevul May 2016 #3

yea....and... virginia mountainman May 2016 #4

Except this study is baised so we know it isn't true scscholar Jul 2016 #29

The idea is to stop the aggressor and they don't always use bullets discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #30

Kickety kick. N/T beevul May 2016 #5

Where did you find this graph? It's not at your link. flamin lib May 2016 #6

"Lie much?" A lie like endorsing something you haven't tested? friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #7

K&R! Kang Colby May 2016 #8

K&R. N/T beevul May 2016 #9

Kickety kick. N/t beevul Jul 2016 #10

The stuff controllers don't like, and will deny even exists. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #11

Hell, they can totally ignore the 2013 CDC study and the results DonP Jul 2016 #12

Even if the numbers were 1 DGU to 9,000 criminal homicides that 1 is still justified. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #13

Want to make sure I understand you SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #17

How can defensive gun use *cause* criminal homicides (i.e. murder or manslaughter)? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #19

I'm pretty sure you understood SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #24

If 900,000 murders are occurring Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #28

In the real world, there are more defensive gun uses than there are murders/manslaughters friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #33

How many innocent people are protected by the 4th Amendment versus criminals Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #25

I understand SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #26

I answered your question. You just refuse to consider the fact that innocent people have rights. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #27

Kicking- because the doctrinaire find it inconvenient friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #14

From your VPC link: struggle4progress Jul 2016 #15

So you should be happy then... beevul Jul 2016 #16

Since "guns are designed to kill"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #18

You do realize that you weren't supposed to notice that? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #20

Oops........sorry discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #22

Wait, those bloodshirsty gunners aren't actually...bloodthirsty? beevul Jul 2016 #21

Bloody Mary is about as far as I go discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #23

A gun that holds just a few rounds is adequate then. Kaleva Jul 2016 #31

A few dozen rounds atleast.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #32

sloppy OP + bum link = 2ndAmendment Mythology jimmy the one Jul 2016 #34