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TreasonousBastard

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9. We really have no concept of "nothing". Try to imagine what lies beyond the end of the universe...
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 10:12 AM
Aug 2019

or what "infinity" really means. What would be here if the universe never happened?

W@hat would be here if nothing was here? A nothing more "nothingy" than just a vacuum, which would be something. "Nothing" means the non-existence of "something" to compare it to. So if we have the concept of "something", is that not the existence of something?

So, we have to dive deep into the concept of nothingness to even eliminate the concept of something. The human mind cannot do that.

So, "something" is the natural state of things in our universe. How did the somethings come about? We don't know and may never know. We also may never know about the possibility of "nothing".

Not all deists claim God created the universe; some simply consider it an unanswerable, and therefore irrelevant, mystery. And many consider God to be just one step above us, with possibly many steps and gods above them. God is there as the ultimate appeals court and management of just our sector. Of course, we humans have a problem deciding which god is the real one, or how it speaks to us.

Personally, I am fascinated by solipsism. The thought that all of this is merely my mind creating everything from the lilies of the field to mass murder is strangely comforting while it is terrifying. Perhaps it's not just my mind, but a few minds working together to create conflict.

I have to go now.

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Buddhists say that everything has a dependent cause. wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #1
But was there? edhopper Aug 2019 #2
Agree wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #5
The first link in the chain WhiteTara Aug 2019 #3
The cause of suffering wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #6
No Mind No Buddha WhiteTara Aug 2019 #4
What does that even mean? edhopper Aug 2019 #7
The brain is an organ WhiteTara Aug 2019 #8
The mind is a function of the brain. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #14
I think you have that backwards WhiteTara Aug 2019 #15
No, I really don't. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #16
Okay. So you rose from no thing WhiteTara Aug 2019 #17
Me, you, and everything. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #18
Rose from no thing? WhiteTara Aug 2019 #19
Biochemistry and a healthy dose of selective pressure. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #20
That's not no thing WhiteTara Aug 2019 #21
"No thing" is not a term I used. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #23
nothing - no thing WhiteTara Aug 2019 #25
your brain, body, life and everything else qazplm135 Aug 2019 #26
why does "simply an organ" preclude consciousness? Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #27
When you tell me WhiteTara Aug 2019 #28
Uh you? Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #31
I'm still not sure I understand what you're asking. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2019 #32
We really have no concept of "nothing". Try to imagine what lies beyond the end of the universe... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #9
good points edhopper Aug 2019 #10
We do have a concept of nothing. CrispyQ Aug 2019 #11
Interesting concept of nothing, but it's very specific and ignores the somethings... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #12
Everything is all that is. mia Aug 2019 #13
My hubs says you're exactly RIGHT. Duppers Aug 2019 #22
High praise edhopper Aug 2019 #24
Limitations of human visual system led delisen Aug 2019 #29
I BELIEVE in nothing. edhopper Aug 2019 #30
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