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Skepticism, Science & Pseudoscience

LeftishBrit

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6. Oh yes. This has been going on for a while

Reply to TZ (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 12:08 PM

Dec 2011

There is a book, 'Day of Deceit' by Robert Stinett, published in 1999, which promotes this view. I haven't read it and don't plan to, but I've seen it referenced a number of times. I am sure that's not the first proposal of this sort. I'd be interested to know whether possibly it derives from some propaganda pieces by 'America-Firster types' at the time, or only developed later.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] TZ Dec 2011 OP

They've been around a very long time RZM Dec 2011 #1

. TZ Dec 2011 #2

So that DavidSwanson guy has a reputation here? I think there's.. MarkCharles Dec 2011 #3

Not only that. Some people - doctors even - reject germ theory; heliocentrism too dmallind Dec 2011 #4

Well see I always thought the internet was making this stuff worse TZ Dec 2011 #5

Oh yes. This has been going on for a while LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #6

Try going to primary sources then. kristopher Dec 2011 #16

He WAS NOT desperate to go to Europe TZ Dec 2011 #18

Just claiming something is woo isn't "skepticism" kristopher Dec 2011 #19

Ummm TZ Dec 2011 #20

IIRC, there was a member MicaelS Dec 2011 #7

Yes, and they'll be mumbling it into their pureed veg at the old folks' home Warpy Dec 2011 #8

A Pearl Harbor truther!? Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #9

I thought the argument was that... Odin2005 Dec 2011 #10

They had been in China for 10 years by then. kristopher Dec 2011 #14

Japan needed natural resources, MicaelS Jan 2012 #24

No argument about the cupability or the motives of the Japanese kristopher Jan 2012 #25

the site your linking to a hate site maddezmom Jan 2012 #32

I was unaware of this.. MicaelS Jan 2012 #33

thank you for editing maddezmom Jan 2012 #34

I heard about the "FDR Knew" theories a good 40 years ago in high school history class - LibertyLover Dec 2011 #11

'Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour?' LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #12

The Japanese and the Germans were allies. kristopher Dec 2011 #15

Completely wrong. onager Dec 2011 #21

Have you made a detailed study of the history of this era? kristopher Dec 2011 #13

Umm the person who told me TZ Dec 2011 #17

everyone knows that those Zeros were holograms Anarcho-Socialist Jan 2012 #22

Nothing more than a right-wing smear used against FDR PVnRT Jan 2012 #23

Whether he knew the specifics of Pearl Harbor or not, there is little doubt he planned to go to war. rug Jan 2012 #26

I wish the FDR race camps were just a conspiracy theory. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #27

Japanese-Americans could have had it worse... MicaelS Jan 2012 #28

Your post reads like it is defending the FDR race camps. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #29

No, I'm no defendng them.. MicaelS Jan 2012 #30

I am glad the misunderstanding is on my end. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #31

Germans in the U.S. were interned in both WWI and WWII onager Jan 2012 #35

The UK certainly interned 'enemy aliens' LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #37

"FDR knew" should be added to the TOS... onager Jan 2012 #36

Actually, I think that counts as a TOS violation. laconicsax Jan 2012 #38

I had a question for you from the meta-discussion thread. kristopher Jan 2012 #40

I addressed your post on the Tripartite Pact elsewhere - in the help & meta-discussion forum kristopher Jan 2012 #39