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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)Hold onto your hats, Wisconsin audit/recount: WTF! Greater than 100% voter turnout [View all]
Last edited Sat Dec 3, 2016, 02:28 PM - Edit history (2)
Edit 2 (12/03/16): Before coming to any conclusions about Isa-Lee's comments, please read this:I did some background checking and have come to the conclusion that she may have misspoke when using the word "voters." She may have meant "ballots." While this does not change my first edit links from Richard Hayes Phillips at the bottom of this post, it does leave me skeptical as to where she arrived at her numbers. Based on 'registered voters' on 11/2/16 & 11/16/16 in one Ward 2 & one Ward 18 of Kenosha County, she does not specify which township/municipality. Therefore I am unable to find one that matches the claim of 346 voters and 746 voters respectively.
With respect of several of the Ward 2 & Ward 18 registered voters, those numbers all appear to be higher than votes, as she lists them. Thus, in line. See topic below, here.
I apologize if this thread mislead anyone, if it turns out to be the case, as I was one that was mislead initially too. - ffr
Isa-Lee, Kenosha County
I observed today in Kenosha county. Here is my report regarding the incidents I noted. Most notable: on the Inspector's Statement Ward 2 and Ward 18 in Kenosha, there were more votes than voters: Ward 2: 344 voters; 346 votes; Ward 18: 743 voters; 746 votes.
(PDF link)
OTHER ISSUES:
Around 2:50 pm: Wheatland 1-6
Trump at 25 votes more than official total. Recounted; 24 Clinton votes were found in Trumps
pile. Trump still at one over official total: 1119 (originally 1118).
Votes from electronic voting; all Trump ballots had initials at the bottom aside from one ballot.
Clinton also ended up one vote above the official total at 557 (orginally 556). I did not observe
that ballot.
<snip>
Time unknown, Afternoon prior to dinner: Bristol, absentee.
Absentee envelopes were scrutinized. Though they appeared to be hand-delivered, they did not
bear the signature of a witness. None had an address or stamp. One envelope was torn too low to
indicated whether it had a stamp, but it had no address, for a total of 12 ballots. The argument
was raised that because they were handed to the poll worker, the poll worker, not the voter, was a
fault for the missing additional signature. That argument was accepted.
A separate absentee ballot that did bear a stamp also did not have the signature of a witness, but
it did have the signature of a poll worker, which indicated that the ID of the voter had been
previously verified. The argument was raised that the reason for the witness signature was
identity; identity was already confirmed as per the poll workers initials. - Isa-Lee (Jill Stein Recount)
I observed today in Kenosha county. Here is my report regarding the incidents I noted. Most notable: on the Inspector's Statement Ward 2 and Ward 18 in Kenosha, there were more votes than voters: Ward 2: 344 voters; 346 votes; Ward 18: 743 voters; 746 votes.
(PDF link)
OTHER ISSUES:
Around 2:50 pm: Wheatland 1-6
Trump at 25 votes more than official total. Recounted; 24 Clinton votes were found in Trumps
pile. Trump still at one over official total: 1119 (originally 1118).
Votes from electronic voting; all Trump ballots had initials at the bottom aside from one ballot.
Clinton also ended up one vote above the official total at 557 (orginally 556). I did not observe
that ballot.
<snip>
Time unknown, Afternoon prior to dinner: Bristol, absentee.
Absentee envelopes were scrutinized. Though they appeared to be hand-delivered, they did not
bear the signature of a witness. None had an address or stamp. One envelope was torn too low to
indicated whether it had a stamp, but it had no address, for a total of 12 ballots. The argument
was raised that because they were handed to the poll worker, the poll worker, not the voter, was a
fault for the missing additional signature. That argument was accepted.
A separate absentee ballot that did bear a stamp also did not have the signature of a witness, but
it did have the signature of a poll worker, which indicated that the ID of the voter had been
previously verified. The argument was raised that the reason for the witness signature was
identity; identity was already confirmed as per the poll workers initials. - Isa-Lee (Jill Stein Recount)
Our election is screaming for federal action. Hillary polled equally high before and after the election with likely voters and on election day in exit polls, yet only performed poorly on election day at polling places?
None of this adds up to be what you'd expect in a normal election.
Edit: Here is how I am reading Isa Lee's comments
We are joined by long-time election fraud investigator and author Richard Hayes Phillips, to discuss all of that and his detailed report about the unusually large apparent voter turnout numbers in many rural WI municipalities and the difficulty citizens have in verifying and overseeing those numbers. As Phillips explains, there are horrible public reporting requirements for both results and for same-day voter registration provisions in the state.
"At a minimum, the problem is a lack of transparency," Phillips tells me today. "We have no way of knowing how many registered voters there are [in WI]. If you don't know how many registered voters there are, you don't know if too many ballots were cast." His report finds that, based on the latest state-reported voter registration numbers, there were "193 towns with turnout of 90% or better, 25 towns with turnout of 95% or better, and 7 towns with turnout of 100% or better." Those exceedingly high turnout numbers are likely lower in reality, due to same-day registration in WI, but the lack of reporting requirements for those numbers is "unacceptable". - Brad Blog 11/28/16
Source: Veterans Today, footnotes to Richard Hayes Phillips
"At a minimum, the problem is a lack of transparency," Phillips tells me today. "We have no way of knowing how many registered voters there are [in WI]. If you don't know how many registered voters there are, you don't know if too many ballots were cast." His report finds that, based on the latest state-reported voter registration numbers, there were "193 towns with turnout of 90% or better, 25 towns with turnout of 95% or better, and 7 towns with turnout of 100% or better." Those exceedingly high turnout numbers are likely lower in reality, due to same-day registration in WI, but the lack of reporting requirements for those numbers is "unacceptable". - Brad Blog 11/28/16
Source: Veterans Today, footnotes to Richard Hayes Phillips
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Hold onto your hats, Wisconsin audit/recount: WTF! Greater than 100% voter turnout [View all]
ffr
Dec 2016
OP
Not much of an error rate, assuming it is even legit. They are going to have to find a lot more
Hoyt
Dec 2016
#2
Precinct X has 100 registered voters. 50 of them vote, the rest don't. Turnout is 50%. If there
rzemanfl
Dec 2016
#6
I think she is saying "voters"number of ballots. In other words, more votes recorded than were
rzemanfl
Dec 2016
#17
He is saying that every registered voter, plus a few extra, cast a ballot. Election fraud.
Nay
Dec 2016
#15
Humans, like you and me, recognize patterns. It is the patterns we're trying to reconcile
ffr
Dec 2016
#16
Everyone knows that Hell is in Michigan. But Wiscosin is Hell, adjacent. At least under Walker.
Thor_MN
Dec 2016
#62
The polling and the results don't add up like never before, that much is certain.
Coyotl
Dec 2016
#21
Since it appears about as important as gummy bears that a cheat took place, I'll bet you five gummy
lonestarnot
Dec 2016
#73
On twitter they said there was evidence of tampering w/recount machines which led to a link
MADem
Dec 2016
#48
Beth Clarkson a professor of math and engineering @ Wichta State U. did a study and ...
Botany
Dec 2016
#57
Gotcha. I didn't realise that quote was from an outsider, not an election official.
Thor_MN
Dec 2016
#65
Shameful that this election handled by Americans conducted in this manner. Something truly stinks.
lonestarnot
Dec 2016
#68