2016 Postmortem

Thor_MN

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63. 40% Voter fraud would be extraordinary, 40% Election fraud is another story.

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 10:27 AM

Dec 2016

A search of reports of confirmed cases of Voter fraud in the 2016 election turned up 4. Not 4%, 4 people. All republicans.

The distinction between Voter fraud and Election fraud is very important. Crucial. The GOP screams about Voter fraud to fuel voter ID measures and reduce access to polls to suppress turnout. When, in fact, Voter fraud is virtually nonexistent. Elections don't turn on voter fraud, they turn on Election fraud. And they GOP really, really does not anyone talking about Election fraud. Wonder why?

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Hold onto your hats, Wisconsin audit/recount: WTF! Greater than 100% voter turnout [View all] ffr Dec 2016 OP

Stolen MFM008 Dec 2016 #1

Not much of an error rate, assuming it is even legit. They are going to have to find a lot more Hoyt Dec 2016 #2

Except that these are individual ward numbers and there are over 5,000 wards. ffr Dec 2016 #8

That is more votes than voters. Not turnout. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2016 #3

I don't understand. Wouldn't turnout be synonymous with votes? ffr Dec 2016 #5

Precinct X has 100 registered voters. 50 of them vote, the rest don't. Turnout is 50%. If there rzemanfl Dec 2016 #6

Exactly. What's your point? ffr Dec 2016 #9

So you are saying- rzemanfl Dec 2016 #11

That's what it appears Isa Lee is saying. I'm just relaying what she wrote ffr Dec 2016 #14

I think she is saying "voters"number of ballots. In other words, more votes recorded than were rzemanfl Dec 2016 #17

If she meant ballots, why didn't she use that word instead of voters? ffr Dec 2016 #19

I see what you're saying now. Let's see if that follows with what she says. ffr Dec 2016 #22

He is saying that every registered voter, plus a few extra, cast a ballot. Election fraud. Nay Dec 2016 #15

I agree that would be fraud. It seems to me that when a "registered voter" rzemanfl Dec 2016 #24

I don't find that credible, either. BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #47

So would 90% and 95% TNNurse Dec 2016 #53

it must be all those dead Trump voters putitinD Dec 2016 #4

Remember Josef Stalin Once got 111% of the vote Wolf Frankula Dec 2016 #7

RIGGED Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #10

Trump said so! Beartracks Dec 2016 #89

Why should I not believe bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #12

Humans, like you and me, recognize patterns. It is the patterns we're trying to reconcile ffr Dec 2016 #16

ain't nothing normal about my state jodymarie aimee Dec 2016 #13

Everyone knows that Hell is in Michigan. But Wiscosin is Hell, adjacent. At least under Walker. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #62

You know why Wisconsin doesn't fall into Lake Michigan? Ellipsis Dec 2016 #64

You need to do some remedial Geography work. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #66

Wisconsin is next to Minnesota and Lake Michigan Except for the "Upers". Ellipsis Dec 2016 #69

So the election in fraudulant humbled_opinion Dec 2016 #18

If there is proof beyond reasonable doubt, how can the fucker take office? lonestarnot Dec 2016 #30

Because post truth and depraved indifference pink-o Dec 2016 #67

The problem isn't what he knows it's what he can prove and barring cstanleytech Dec 2016 #87

If more than 100% of registered voters standingtall Dec 2016 #20

She may have worded her comments awkwardly. See post above ffr Dec 2016 #23

The polling and the results don't add up like never before, that much is certain. Coyotl Dec 2016 #21

Looks like hints oof widespread election frud. triron Dec 2016 #25

Ever wonder how Walker made it through his recall election Botany Dec 2016 #26

K&R drm604 Dec 2016 #27

I can't believe that people on THIS forum are questionning this... strongermessage Dec 2016 #28

The op was interpreting standingtall Dec 2016 #32

Yep! Yep and Yep! Fucker! Bet he doesn't get confirmed. Keep counting! lonestarnot Dec 2016 #29

I'll take that bet GummyBearz Dec 2016 #72

Since it appears about as important as gummy bears that a cheat took place, I'll bet you five gummy lonestarnot Dec 2016 #73

Something about that color just bugs me lately GummyBearz Dec 2016 #77

Cool the seismologist... If it's there, he will find it. Looks like he did. Ellipsis Dec 2016 #31

Trump was right. It truly WAS RIGGED....for him!!! AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #33

Will the msm have the backbone standingtall Dec 2016 #34

More tinfoil hat bs hueymahl Dec 2016 #35

Sure because greater then 100% of the recorded vote happens all the time Botany Dec 2016 #36

clearly there was a mistake hueymahl Dec 2016 #37

This was not a mistake Botany Dec 2016 #39

So mistakes that disproportionately standingtall Dec 2016 #42

It's math. I have been voting since 1964, and have yet to Bohunk68 Dec 2016 #49

40% Voter fraud would be extraordinary, 40% Election fraud is another story. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #63

Simple math .. strongermessage Dec 2016 #59

But we need a straw to grasp. HassleCat Dec 2016 #79

Yep. Well put. NT hueymahl Dec 2016 #91

Loving County, TX has more than 100% turnout every election jfern Dec 2016 #38

I looked up Loving county Texas standingtall Dec 2016 #41

As they say on my mom's side of the family HassleCat Dec 2016 #40

Good lord this is ridiculously clear. byronius Dec 2016 #43

All I've seen so far is Chuck Todd gloating over Hillary's loss. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #46

KnR Hekate Dec 2016 #44

What was it Trump said? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #45

On twitter they said there was evidence of tampering w/recount machines which led to a link MADem Dec 2016 #48

Without seeing the whole roster of wards DFW Dec 2016 #50

Glad I kicked into Stein's recount fund Omaha Steve Dec 2016 #51

Interesting. rzemanfl Dec 2016 #52

2012 Total votes (Presidential) rzemanfl Dec 2016 #54

outside of the township of cedar rapids Botany Dec 2016 #55

What I found interesting was that rzemanfl Dec 2016 #56

Beth Clarkson a professor of math and engineering @ Wichta State U. did a study and ... Botany Dec 2016 #57

In Wisconsin, we've been screaming foul Greybnk48 Dec 2016 #58

We have no way of knowing how many registered voters there are? Bullshit. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #60

They didn't share the up to date info with Phillips Ellipsis Dec 2016 #61

Gotcha. I didn't realise that quote was from an outsider, not an election official. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #65

Richard Hayes Phillips is no Outsider. Ellipsis Dec 2016 #70

Outsider, as in, not an election official defending their results. Thor_MN Dec 2016 #71

Shameful that this election handled by Americans conducted in this manner. Something truly stinks. lonestarnot Dec 2016 #68

St. Croix County WI suspicious activity in re-count room 1876em Dec 2016 #74

I saw that video. But that same lady is in another video with other people ffr Dec 2016 #75

Video 1876em Dec 2016 #76

Yeah, but she felt it would save some time and she could take care of it herself. ffr Dec 2016 #78

Video 1876em Dec 2016 #80

Being a skeptical deductive thinker will do that. When something doesn't seem right ffr Dec 2016 #82

Curious. I was reading responses to an article on HuffPo and someone said Vinca Dec 2016 #81

St. Croix County WI video 1876em Dec 2016 #83

Former Trump Advisor: Scott Walker Has 'Rigged' 5 Elections Jeroen Dec 2016 #84

Roger Stone and Scott Walker 1876em Dec 2016 #85

I'm curious how military votes are handled? OnlinePoker Dec 2016 #86

Remember Michelle Obama's speech about just a couple votes... Beartracks Dec 2016 #88

Just imagine trying to sit down in a court room with these numbers turbinetree Dec 2016 #90