2016 Postmortem

NanceGreggs

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78. Sadly, I've learned plenty.

Sun Dec 4, 2016, 07:24 PM

Dec 2016

I've learned that some people didn't get off their asses and vote because they didn't feel "inspired" or "excited" enough.

Some people voted third party because their candidate-of-choice wasn't the nominee.

Some people didn't vote for HRC because she didn't campaign in their area.

Some people didn't vote because they wanted to "send the Dem Party a message" - and who they think got that message, given no one knows if or how they voted anyway, is beyond me.

Some people didn't vote because "both parties are the same anyway".

Some people voted for Trump because they're pissed-off at HRC, the DNC, or DWS, or (list personal complaint here).

Given the outcome of the popular vote, the "loss" is attributable to the EC. The MAJORITY of voters chose HRC as their president - despite those who sat on their asses on election night, or voted Trump or third party out of spite.

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Please Feel Free to Take Me for Granted [View all] NanceGreggs Dec 2016 OP

KnR Hekate Dec 2016 #1

this MFM008 Dec 2016 #2

Well said! K&R n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2016 #3

K&R. nt DesertFlower Dec 2016 #4

Thank you for a serious adult response we must just rwheeler31 Dec 2016 #5

Exactly. LisaM Dec 2016 #6

you dont send me flowers....anymore says Babs, a true blue liberal msongs Dec 2016 #7

I know, Nance, well said.. it's not brain surgery.. the DNC stands for Cha Dec 2016 #8

Yup sheshe2 Dec 2016 #9

Fall in love during the primary, fall in line during the general. Snarkoleptic Dec 2016 #10

That's right -unless and until you start standing for what Republicans stand for .... lunasun Dec 2016 #11

The party yes SHRED Dec 2016 #12

PLUS... radical noodle Dec 2016 #13

And Hillary had some GREAT ads. maddiemom Dec 2016 #48

She did radical noodle Dec 2016 #53

I am sharing this far and wide. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2016 #14

Kick sheshe2 Dec 2016 #15

Kick sheshe2 Dec 2016 #16

Kick sheshe2 Dec 2016 #17

Yes. betsuni Dec 2016 #18

K&R! DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #19

K&R! BzaDem Dec 2016 #20

K & R SunSeeker Dec 2016 #21

K and R oasis Dec 2016 #22

As long as you do all that, Democrats, count me in as not minding being taken for granted Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #23

And I've no doubt you do. n/t NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #24

No doubt I do what, pray tell? Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #26

Do what you said you do. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #27

Accusing me of voting republican because I said "IF I wanted. . ." Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #29

I didn't accuse you of anything. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #30

Yeah you did, in a very passive aggressive, easy to deny way. What you did is called gaslighting. Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #31

I said nothing. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #32

Let's look at my post Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #33

You should have ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #34

FWIW brooklynboy49 Dec 2016 #45

I appreciate it. Thank you, Brooklyn! Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #76

It's not worth the time. Just ignore or use ignore. Either works. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #81

are you even allowed to do that on these boards? That seems way the fuck out of line. JCanete Dec 2016 #57

Why would I do what? n/t NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #59

seriously don't be that coy. It isn't flattering to yourself. nt JCanete Dec 2016 #61

I honestly have NO idea ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #63

Since' you're bothering to engage, maybe you could clear it up for me. JCanete Dec 2016 #67

Seems pretty obvious. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #69

and you said "I have no doubt you DO," not WOULD. Quit playing games. nt JCanete Dec 2016 #71

You're the one playing word games. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #73

Well if this is the level of honesty you are comfortable with, more power to you. It isn't about JCanete Dec 2016 #75

Nance has been around here for about 16 years now leftofcool Dec 2016 #77

What even is this post about. Perhaps you could do the work she refused to do, and JCanete Dec 2016 #79

No melman Dec 2016 #64

Republicans are bent The Wizard Dec 2016 #25

Perfect. Brilliant. Thank you, Nance. I can't think of a thing to add. lamp_shade Dec 2016 #28

Look- and informed grownup who can make her own decisions. Yes, it is we who support the Party. NBachers Dec 2016 #35

K&R brer cat Dec 2016 #36

Thank you, Nance. DinahMoeHum Dec 2016 #37

Deal me in! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #38

Amen, I do not need to be "courted" or "inspired" treestar Dec 2016 #39

I really agree with this OP Gothmog Dec 2016 #40

Thank you Nance mcar Dec 2016 #41

They have to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. That's why I was/am a Bernie supporter. As a GreenPartyVoter Dec 2016 #42

It's unconditional now. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #43

Well said, as usual NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #44

Unmitigated nonsense. theaocp Dec 2016 #46

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2016 #47

"As long as" is a damn fatass loophole. rug Dec 2016 #49

I think you've coined a new slogan 'Its ok to take you for granted-we know we can count on your vote NRQ891 Dec 2016 #50

no where do you mention trade deals NRQ891 Dec 2016 #51

Trade deals are easier to blame than reality. nt fleabiscuit Dec 2016 #70

wow - that's arrogance nt NRQ891 Dec 2016 #85

Reality can seem that way when butting up against preconceived conclusions. nt fleabiscuit Dec 2016 #90

no, arrogance can seem that way, when it's arrogance nt NRQ891 Dec 2016 #92

You started with a conclusion. fleabiscuit Dec 2016 #95

seems you're an expert in non-sequitors nt NRQ891 Dec 2016 #96

Perhaps it was because people thought it ok to grab women by the *****. fleabiscuit Dec 2016 #97

? NRQ891 Dec 2016 #99

' I know what you stand for, and I know what Republicans stand for.' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #52

+a bazillion n/t theaocp Dec 2016 #54

that page I quoted was written in 1945 NRQ891 Dec 2016 #94

After Hillary kicked Bernie's ass in the primaries, liquid diamond Dec 2016 #55

Insiders don't fight for anything without outside pressure, and if they do its' a pointless gesture. JCanete Dec 2016 #60

Well that is lovely, and nobody has ever had to fight to get democrats to take up issues that matter JCanete Dec 2016 #56

We have four years between presidential elections ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #58

Well, lack of respect for others is somethig that goes around. I'm sure politicians who don't JCanete Dec 2016 #66

If what you've taken away from this OP ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #89

Fair enough. I just went back. it was a somewhat shoddy read on my part. JCanete Dec 2016 #98

Excellent. Chemisse Dec 2016 #62

Kick! BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #65

Great post, Nance. lapucelle Dec 2016 #68

K&R. I'm with you, Nance. Paladin Dec 2016 #72

You've learned nothing from thie loss. Exilednight Dec 2016 #74

Sadly, I've learned plenty. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #78

The fact that you dismiss these peoples complaints is proof enough. Exilednight Dec 2016 #84

If you consider any of those things ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #87

We are going to miss Democrats very soon IronLionZion Dec 2016 #80

K&R ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #82

NanceGreggs 2020! stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #83

I was not aware we were a cult. azmom Dec 2016 #86

The "cult" ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #88

Blind loyalty is not a good thing. azmom Dec 2016 #91

It's not about blind loyalty. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #93

Another great one, Nance! calimary Dec 2016 #100