2016 Postmortem

JCanete

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29. That just isn't true that you can't change mindsets. What about how people have stopped

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:37 PM

Dec 2016

thinking homosexuality is wrong or deviant in their own lifetimes and have even come around to gay marriage.

You are pointing out how people think as if it isn't continually reified by the media and the politicians in their localities, and yes their churches. We have to fight that message and not give up on people, and it shouldn't ever be our job to decide who and who can't be "saved."

If MLK had only gotten through to people who already saw him as human, his impact on American Consciousness would have hardly been as profound.

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Obama nailed it. No need to sugar coat it. [View all] NCTraveler Dec 2016 OP

And Trump won on their backs metroins Dec 2016 #1

Interesting that the person quoted won as well. That isn't a Clinton quote. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #2

I know metroins Dec 2016 #5

I'm probably in the minority Nwgirl503 Dec 2016 #15

I feel like we've tried the young vote for 20 years metroins Dec 2016 #20

I agree to a point Nwgirl503 Dec 2016 #31

Tried how? quakerboy Dec 2016 #44

Yes metroins Dec 2016 #46

I gotta be honest quakerboy Dec 2016 #49

If I recall, he took a lot of flak for that statement, but it was true then and is true now. shraby Dec 2016 #3

Yep. Clinton took a lot of flak for her deplorable statement. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #4

He took flack for conveniently edited and shortened versions pangaia Dec 2016 #26

Read "Hillbilly Elegy" SharonAnn Dec 2016 #47

Now we can add on... yallerdawg Dec 2016 #6

you forgot the first paragraph of his quote (equally salient) geek tragedy Dec 2016 #7

Yes. Thanks, geek tragedy. elleng Dec 2016 #10

His point is spot on. The addition really doesn't add much to the manifistation of bitterness. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #11

the point was that the people have a lot to be pissed about, and when people geek tragedy Dec 2016 #16

Correct Lithos Dec 2016 #28

People crave simple explanations to complex phenomena. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #30

But Lithos, if you deplore tens of millions of voters, you have fewer to appeal to... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #32

yes, the hispanics are racist or have some other issues where i don't justify it either . JI7 Dec 2016 #42

I haven't heard any anyone say all white blue collar workers are racists.. JHan Dec 2016 #51

Trump did not get 30 percent of the Latino vote. That figure was debunked. StevieM Dec 2016 #55

Like their faithful voting for Republican and once and a while voting blue and expecting everything uponit7771 Dec 2016 #53

...And also the Right... SkyDaddy7 Dec 2016 #24

Yep. Chitown Kev Dec 2016 #50

Yes, POTUS was right, but it is ALSO about economics. elleng Dec 2016 #8

That is why Clinton spent so much time focusing on the economy. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #12

Exactly. She talked about it constantly. The post-election media narrative is pure fiction. StevieM Dec 2016 #54

Thisyes lunasun Dec 2016 #56

The problem is that half the people will always be in the bottom 50 percent. rzemanfl Dec 2016 #17

No, it isn't. That is totally bogus. duffyduff Dec 2016 #18

Indeed, all we need are some coastal states and the Beltway. It'll work everytime!! Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #33

In the last week of this Campaign Run. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #9

much of Trump's nastiest treatment, was directed toward the other republicans NRQ891 Dec 2016 #13

Good points. Trump's supporters had "their hippy on," "doin' it in the road." Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #34

Yet incumbents were re-elected at an even higher rate than normal. In both the House and Senate. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #39

fear and insecurity feeds those frustrations. You can't pretend economics have no role. JCanete Dec 2016 #14

They think somebody else is benefiting at their (entitled) expense. duffyduff Dec 2016 #19

you know all about every member of this group, what they think, and why they do what they do NRQ891 Dec 2016 #21

That just isn't true that you can't change mindsets. What about how people have stopped JCanete Dec 2016 #29

Yes he did. He was right then and is still right now. I never understood the hoopla about that liberalla Dec 2016 #22

He basically pointed out that water is wet. Shocking. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #40

That is why they were so angry. coco22 Dec 2016 #23

I think Democrats should LEAD with GUN CONTROL! Yeah, baby! That'll work. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #35

Still true eight years later. George II Dec 2016 #25

It's also the *cheating*. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #27

Every one needs something safe to cling to - guns and God can be like that - can fix a lot of ills; jmg257 Dec 2016 #36

Eerily prophetic RonniePudding Dec 2016 #37

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #38

drumpfuck has their backs.. rofl Cha Dec 2016 #41

Yes. So ... how do we counteract that? nt CaptainTruth Dec 2016 #43

It certainly is not about economics ProfessorPlum Dec 2016 #45

Obama took such a drubbing for saying this - and it's 100% true SpankMe Dec 2016 #48

The 1st Noble Truth of Suffering vlyons Dec 2016 #52