2016 Postmortem

bettyellen

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21. Hillary got more votes than Obama. She beat Sanders handily as well.

Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:21 PM

Dec 2016

Last edited Fri Dec 9, 2016, 01:50 AM - Edit history (1)

I know you'd like to pretend this was NOT a huge squeaker but it was. I'm sick of hearing advice from people who didn't even make it to the election itself.

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Nina Turner on How to Make the Democratic Party Great Again [View all] portlander23 Dec 2016 OP

Let me guess! Another slam against the Dem party because the voters care about economics!! bettyellen Dec 2016 #1

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Oligarchy!! Apparently the oligarchy is a lot more popular than Sanders guessed. bettyellen Dec 2016 #15

See post #10 FreakinDJ Dec 2016 #17

Exactly! If anything, Trump has humiliated Bernie R B Garr Dec 2016 #52

It was born of slavery BainsBane Dec 2016 #85

Very well said. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #109

Yes, but I don't think it serves citizens BainsBane Dec 2016 #112

True. And this imagined past is what the Tea Party insists on as fact. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #114

Hmmmm sheshe2 Dec 2016 #45

She couldn't even get re-elected to her State Senate seat redstateblues Dec 2016 #2

well that's going a bit far. So if somebody loses an election, they no longer JCanete Dec 2016 #5

Sounds like haters have to keep hating, elleng Dec 2016 #7

Ms. Turner did nothing but tear down Hillary. redstateblues Dec 2016 #127

She has seemed very ambivalent about being a Democrat redstateblues Dec 2016 #53

Well, if we're giving no credit to politicians who lose elections.... hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #93

So Clinton has no credibility now?!? Joe941 Dec 2016 #111

Hillary is a staunch Democrat. Ms. Turner is not. She actually hurt Hillary's campaign redstateblues Dec 2016 #126

Democrats lost 1.17 million voters in the Rust Belt that voted for Obama in 2012. think Dec 2016 #3

Abstentions - you mean the people who did vote for either candidate ?? FreakinDJ Dec 2016 #10

This is an open question portlander23 Dec 2016 #18

Keith Ellison is a shoe in and will do an amazing job ... just watch! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #54

No he won't...he made statements that guarantee he will become the story and not Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #75

Of course it should be, which is why I think KE will do an amazing job. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #79

He will be controversial...the GOP will make it about Ellison...and he will be hampered in his Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #80

I respect your opinion... we'll soon see and I think you'll be surprised. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #82

I hope so...I fear that having an inexperienced and controversial person run Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #89

I think I agree with you. I tire of--and it is not helpful for any riversedge Dec 2016 #105

This is what I saw among my rust belt friends and family. OnionPatch Dec 2016 #55

I'll never understand the idea that since the Ds are ignoring my plight, stopbush Dec 2016 #128

How many were screwed by Voter ID laws? About 10x more than her margin of loss... bettyellen Dec 2016 #20

Here are the actual voting results for Trumbull county Ohio for all 3 presidential elections. think Dec 2016 #22

We both know Sanders is going there to spin his story w MSNBCS help- every time he sams Dems bettyellen Dec 2016 #27

You'll see and hear a lot more of Bernie Sanders. The Democrats appointed him outreach chair think Dec 2016 #34

Unless he keeps slamming Democrats. Shit is getting tired. bettyellen Dec 2016 #46

Yes ..... Kathy M Dec 2016 #100

What the Democratic leadership is saying behind closed doors does not necessarily correspond lapucelle Dec 2016 #107

They didn't make up a title for him. Senator Amy Klobuchar is the current chair. think Dec 2016 #108

The current committee is the Senate Steering and Outreach Committee lapucelle Dec 2016 #117

I stand corrected. Still it is a good fit for Sanders. /nt think Dec 2016 #118

If the Democrats had won the senate, Sanders would have been chair lapucelle Dec 2016 #119

She is still bitter bravenak Dec 2016 #4

The Bernie bashes Dem tour is in full effect! And MSNBC is going to help- just as they did during bettyellen Dec 2016 #28

It never ends. bravenak Dec 2016 #50

DEMOCRATS SUCK! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #57

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Along with most on here on the left. NWCorona Dec 2016 #92

'we can't throw away the coalition of progressive people of color and progressive whites elleng Dec 2016 #6

And Why Should We Listen To Her? Me. Dec 2016 #9

Because they were right? portlander23 Dec 2016 #11

No, they weren't right. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #12

About What? Me. Dec 2016 #13

The losers giving advice again and again is losing its charm... bettyellen Dec 2016 #14

Who was the winner of the 2016 election again? portlander23 Dec 2016 #19

Hillary got more votes than Obama. She beat Sanders handily as well. bettyellen Dec 2016 #21

It was a really close election portlander23 Dec 2016 #25

With interference from the FBI at the last minute? Oh please. bettyellen Dec 2016 #30

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Bullshit. He created a scandalous fake "investigation" by pretending there was new information. bettyellen Dec 2016 #36

OK. You're right. portlander23 Dec 2016 #38

You've been pushing RW talking points shamelessly in order to denigrate our candidate. bettyellen Dec 2016 #42

Both our Candidate and the DEMOCRATIC PARTY sheshe2 Dec 2016 #58

It's pretty clear that Comey influenced the election. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #43

As BettyEllen noted below, they are invested in pushing "Bernie's secret sauce" as the solution stevenleser Dec 2016 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author TwilightZone Dec 2016 #39

Thanks, portlander. elleng Dec 2016 #24

Depends. Hillary won the popular vote. Since every argument you are making suggests stevenleser Dec 2016 #31

He's now pushing the email scandal as a thing- LOL. bettyellen Dec 2016 #37

Not surprising. Anyone with a brain recognized that was B.S. from day one. Like Benghazi. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #40

I knew the Wikileaks thing was crap- hacker culture is incredibly sexist in nature and when I heard bettyellen Dec 2016 #41

You may not " want his advise " .... but think about something .... Kathy M Dec 2016 #99

Like the crew that lost to the most absurd candidate in history? QC Dec 2016 #103

Seriously? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #47

No one was right or wrong Kathy M Dec 2016 #101

Exactly, Me. Thank you! Cha Dec 2016 #68

What. A. Crock. ucrdem Dec 2016 #16

Any bullshit to sell us Sanders secret sauce! bettyellen Dec 2016 #23

That stuff is way past it's sell-by and needs to be thrown away. ucrdem Dec 2016 #29

Hey you! ;) sheshe2 Dec 2016 #48

Like being told how to buy back a stolen bike ucrdem Dec 2016 #65

Nina Turner on How to Make the Democratic Party Great Again. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #26

Nina, don't go away mad this time, just, go away. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #32

Everytime she opened her mouth I turned her off. LiberalFighter Dec 2016 #33

Nina who? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #49

didn't Nina Turner lose an Election ? JI7 Dec 2016 #51

Some things just can't flame out quickly enough. JTFrog Dec 2016 #56

How did taking her own advice work out for her? La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #59

I have one question, who did Ms. Turner vote for in the general election? still_one Dec 2016 #60

I think she and Tulsi used Bernie to hurt the Dems... bettyellen Dec 2016 #61

You are right still_one Dec 2016 #63

When you refer to the Democrats as "they" you aren't a Democrat. Justice Dec 2016 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Dec 2016 #94

No amount of hatred for Bernie Sanders and dismissal of his supporters democrank Dec 2016 #62

Thanks. +1 tecelote Dec 2016 #64

+ 1 Kathy M Dec 2016 #115

No hatred or dismissal works both ways. Justice Dec 2016 #73

+1 Kathy M Dec 2016 #116

Poor Democrats! They must change, or else they will never win the popular vote!!! DetlefK Dec 2016 #66

Youre exactly right. We DID win the popular vote. However.... democrank Dec 2016 #91

Turner needs to understand the importance of loyalty before giving lectures oasis Dec 2016 #69

Like Dem Loyalty to the working class - TPP, NAFTA, GAT ... FreakinDJ Dec 2016 #70

Hillary Clinton voted against the only trade agreement that came before her in the Senate. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #77

+1 QC Dec 2016 #104

Nina knew the score before she switched sides. I'm addressing oasis Dec 2016 #120

Nina Turner really turns me off. Justice Dec 2016 #71

Better believe it!...nt SidDithers Dec 2016 #74

Nina is of course correct ProgressIsLeft Dec 2016 #76

Bernie would be 80 in 20 Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #78

And? ProgressIsLeft Dec 2016 #81

He didn't win the primary befor,e and he won't this time. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #83

Ok Demsrule86 I'm a little confused here by your response ProgressIsLeft Dec 2016 #86

I would not vote for Bernie in a primary. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #88

Bernie advocated a stock transaction tax to help pay for his college program. The tax would hit high think Dec 2016 #90

He did call for an increase in payroll taxes...I thought it was for tuition but it was paid leave Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #98

All the graphs showed a decent hike in taxes for the middle class. He was DOA on that. bettyellen Dec 2016 #110

He didn't win the primary before and he won't this time. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #129

Tulsi is not a progressive. So ridic. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #106

Specifically tell me why Tulsi isn't a progressive in your eyes please ProgressIsLeft Dec 2016 #113

She is very hawkish and outright Islamaphobic La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #123

Ah so now you want to into personal attacks, eh? ProgressIsLeft Dec 2016 #124

Maybe you should read more than thecthings La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #125

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not a personal attack, She is an islamaphobe and the only reason the alt-left dont see it La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #134

She said 'They' not we by the way... Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #84

The DNC chair resigned just last summer. Yet Turner talking about getting the party on track again think Dec 2016 #87

I do not trust Nina Turner or care about her opinion on anything Gothmog Dec 2016 #95

The Democratic Party has issues but it's not widely unpopular Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #96

Agree ...... Kathy M Dec 2016 #102

Nina Turner has nothing to say that I want to hear, anymore. (nt) Paladin Dec 2016 #97

Make no mistake, all voters should have seen through Trump mvd Dec 2016 #121

I love the passion and sense that Nina brings. Kentonio Dec 2016 #122

Nina is full of crap. Lil Missy Dec 2016 #130

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Interesting read portlander. Thanks for posting Arazi Dec 2016 #133