2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: How many think votes were flipped to Trump in all the swing states? [View all]Sancho
(9,103 posts)I saw a DRE that would change a vote from a Democrat to the Republican. I stopped and demanded that the machine be taken down and asked for it to be impounded. After some confusion, the (Repub) ES eventually had me escorted out and put the machine back in service. A technician "reset" the machine, and could just as easily been erasing the evidence. The tech worked for the DRE manufacturer. It was NOT a calibration error - but my wife and I stood there and even used a different ballot card and watched it flip a single election over and over before the review page. Out of a bank of machines, we only saw one that flipped votes in one close congressional election.
I also know that some good scholars have analyzed data here in Fl and concluded the patterns of undervotes and contrasts with non-DREs in the same precincts and correlations with other ballot initiatives don't make sense. Also, pre and post polls - even ones in the parking lot right after the voting - contradict the published results.
At least in Florida, there is no question in my mind that SOME precincts or counties have hacking of DREs. There will never be "extraordinary evidence" because the GOP has been successful in court (here in FL) at preventing valid recounts, software examination, or even effective poll watching.
I don't think the Russians even need to have been involved since it's gone on here since 2000, but the tabulators and DREs are vulnerable. It doesn't take but a handful of machines and a small manipulation to turn a state like Florida.