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2016 Postmortem

UCmeNdc

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4. But will the US ever have truly free and fair elections again?

Reply to gordianot (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 9, 2017, 09:28 AM

Jan 2017

If you use that as a standard, 2012 was the last free and fair election in the US. Going forward who ever controls the election counting computers control the results. Plus add in a propaganda disinformation operation, no more freedom!

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Will President Obama be the last real US President [View all] UCmeNdc Jan 2017 OP

Once Der Trumpf45* proclaims himself Feuhrer for Life, it's all over.... lastlib Jan 2017 #1

President Pence is the one I worry about. gordianot Jan 2017 #2

But will the US ever have truly free and fair elections again? UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #4

Elections will be held as to free that depends on who counts the votes. gordianot Jan 2017 #6

It is likely that by 2020 we will have had elections abolished. libtodeath Jan 2017 #3

Why abolish the process when you can control it and use it as your propaganda aid? UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #5

Yup. Why stop elections when he badly wants to meet or exceed Putin's 89% of the vote? hedda_foil Jan 2017 #18

The Republicans have been practicing voter suppression and fraud for the past Cal33 Jan 2017 #29

It would not surprise me... Snackshack Jan 2017 #13

No. We will have another real President this month. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #7

State and electoral boards were hacked this election along with DNC... NOT JUST EMAILS.... why would uponit7771 Jan 2017 #10

We are going to gain seats in '18 if we play this right. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #11

That makes no rational sense, no logical sense... If they hacked in 16 they'll hack in 18 and nothin uponit7771 Jan 2017 #12

When did I say they wouldn't hack? NCTraveler Jan 2017 #15

OK... then ... why work a strategy they can defeat sitting down? thx in advance, I'm just a.. uponit7771 Jan 2017 #16

Election interference from other governments isn't as new as some are making it out to be. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #17

Election involvement is new especially at this level, that's a fact not in dipsute uponit7771 Jan 2017 #22

It is not new in any way at all. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #23

Do you have any proof of US state and local boards being hacked and the DNC being hacked by uponit7771 Jan 2017 #24

Wow have you limited what is allowed in the discussion. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #25

Yeah, the rest of what's filtered out has been used by the RW to intimate Americans should accept uponit7771 Jan 2017 #28

But we must recognize that our election processes are flawed and must be corrected by the next UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #33

Yes. Unless the American people take back this country - making it clear they will be ungovernable ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #8

++++++++ YES !!!+++++++ Why would the KGOP allow another US president in office after uponit7771 Jan 2017 #9

So all the doomsday Republicans who insisted President Obama would be the last US President.... Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2017 #14

No. onenote Jan 2017 #19

Well the thread is stated in a very blunt manner to drive the point home. UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #21

Wish I would have followed your lead. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #26

No. Maybe, likely nothing new. No. jmg257 Jan 2017 #20

Baba Ganga Prediction? HockeyMom Jan 2017 #27

I think you mean Baba Vanga. onenote Jan 2017 #30

Yes, Thank you HockeyMom Jan 2017 #32

No and it's just as silly as those people who said Obama would do the same mythology Jan 2017 #31