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Fire Walk With Me

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44. No. Just "NO".

Sat Apr 21, 2012, 12:20 PM

Apr 2012

You cannot simultaneously support the corrupt system and change it.

It is right there in the Occupy declarations. Period. Absolute. No affiliation or support of politicians and political parties.

If politics and politicians could solve these problems, they would have by now. They are fully invested IN the problems, and must be countered by the people united. Looking for answers within the corrupt system is futile. Looking to anyone but the people of this country for our future, is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Anything calling itself "99%" while simultaneously investing energy into corruption, IS the problem.

THIS is how Occupy is turned into someone's private "tea party". All that energy, going into a corrupt system which is destroying the 99%...

THIS is what Occupy is doing:

http://occupywallst.org/article/may-day/

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Report from an occupier who attended one of the "99% Spring" trainings [View all] limpyhobbler Apr 2012 OP

Do it! I've already signed up. snot Apr 2012 #1

NOT Occupy. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #2

Fire Walk, Hi!! So what is this 99% Spring then? Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #3

Why not? Appropriating slogans spreads the meme n/t eridani Apr 2012 #66

I agree n/t Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #75

That's true... limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #4

Shit < > Shinola Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #5

Fire Walk, do you think they are starving Occupy for support or cash Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #6

Perhaps they're trying to harness the energy of Occupy toward the Dems U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #7

And if anyone has a problem with it, they should talk to A. Philip Randolph Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #8

Sorry, I don't get your point. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #9

Sorry, I should have been more clear. A. Philip Randolph kicked off the Civil Rights movement by Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #9

"99% Spring is a bust at co-opting Occupy Wall Street" Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #12

What is being discussed here should have it's own thread in GD. I think it is where we rhett o rick Apr 2012 #18

Please read the two new article I've just posted. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #21

I am around that age and I Occupy. The problem is Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #22

Great post Fire. Thanks for all you give to Occupy. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #24

Great post, friend. "We are the answer... Zorra Apr 2012 #25

San Francisco Recorder Claims 99% of LOANs contain irregularities and 84% contain VIOLATIONS OF LAW Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #13

Thanks for the links, Fire Walk! Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #16

The “99% Spring” Brings Co-optation into Full Bloom Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #19

I understand where you are coming from on this...for sure.. KoKo Apr 2012 #30

Battle for the soul of Occupy Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #20

Glad to see your posts in this group. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2012 #35

Exactly. Thanks for posting this. People need to join Occupy to join in true democracy. this is serious Apr 2012 #64

It's fine that they are organizing, and probably is a good thing, but they should NOT sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #58

I guess some people could get confused. limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #61

Why not? The 99% meme changed the national conversation almost overnight eridani Apr 2012 #69

No, I am advocating that when people use it, they make it clear who they are. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #71

The more it spreads, the more that people not at all related to Occupy eridani Apr 2012 #72

People were confused, including me. I thought this training program was an OWS sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #73

Yep. 99% Spring is an assemblage of organizations, movements, etc, that Occupy has co-opted Zorra Apr 2012 #11

So if 99% Spring has failed to co-opt Occupy, and Occupy has co-opted 99% spring, Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #15

We collectively lead the way, like we did to finally get them interested Zorra Apr 2012 #17

The PEOPLE and THEIR ISSUES ...FORGE ON...PAST THE TURF WARS! KoKo Apr 2012 #31

"Stop believing in authority. Start believing in each other." Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #23

I hear ya on that :-) Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #32

I attended a 99% training this weekend. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #26

I went to one too. limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #27

Thanks! Zorra Apr 2012 #28

I have the same perspective as you... Thanks J.D. Priestly... We all do what we can do KoKo Apr 2012 #29

Thanks J.D. Your post was very reassuring to me about the prospects for these workshops Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #33

Just Remember that there are folks DOING WHAT THEY CAN..Maybe they are Infiltrated..Maybe Not KoKo Apr 2012 #34

Of course, it may depend on where the 99% meetings took place. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #37

If you think all that Occupy does is sleep in tents then you know nothing of Occupy. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #36

I definitely do not think that all Occupy does is sleep in tents, JDPriestly Apr 2012 #38

Why not instead seek out your local Occupation? Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #39

From my training, I did not have the impression that they were two separate movements. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #41

Utterly separate. Occupy eschews politics and politicians Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #42

It may depend on the local 99% movement. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #43

No. Just "NO". Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #44

Do you want lots of people to support Occupy? JDPriestly Apr 2012 #45

From the amount of honking and peace signs we get when we march, Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #46

Fire, you're on fire tonight!! U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #48

But do you want more support than just honking horns? JDPriestly Apr 2012 #49

I thank you for your concern. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #50

Your true colors are showing. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #52

I have visited two Occupy camps in two cities. That is how I got the impression JDPriestly Apr 2012 #53

So now we ARE inclusive? U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #54

The problem with the GAs is that they occur late at night. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #56

We have older folks & disabled folks all over the GA every night. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #57

Exactly! Disabled people can attend just as well as anybody. this is serious Apr 2012 #67

I'm older. I'm disabled. I don't always have money for the bus. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #60

You are an inspiration sir! this is serious Apr 2012 #65

Your sarcasm runneth over. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #74

Exactly! "No affiliation or support of politicians and political parties." this is serious Apr 2012 #68

Thank you for your good intent Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #40

Everyone in this thread should see this article. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #47

Seriously, especially the final paragraph. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #51

I read the Daily Kos diary, and I agree. However, I do not think it will work. It's fine that they sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #62

Yes! The two groups should be kept separate as much as possible. this is serious Apr 2012 #70

Hey Fire, I stopped at that taco truck and realized U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #55

= 1.5 tacos. Think man, THINK ;) Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #59

I hope NOBODY is actually buying into this 99% Spring HOAX this is serious Apr 2012 #63

What I want to know is where the f--- is the legit Occupy and how can we have a 99% spring Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #76

Of course when I say "they" I should add Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #77

What city do you live in? U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #78

There was supposed to be Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #79