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Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Sanders's secret is out: He has no movement - The Washington Post [View all]Gothmog
(154,590 posts)2. Bernie's grievance politics consolidated the left to a 30% losing minority
sanders' cap is near 30% https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/5/1924709/-Bernie-s-grievance-politics-consolidated-the-left-to-a-30-losing-minority
Interesting thought, speaking of Elizabeth Warren and her inability to gain traction with the Bernie Sanders left:
ve wracked my brain wondering why so many on the progressive left, in this day and age of #MeToo and #BlackLivesMatter, would align with an old white guy when there were clear alternatives (unlike in 2016), and this makes as much sense as anything. One commenter on my last piece, on why Bernie Sanders fizzled upon contact with actual voters, wrote that, for Bernie to do some of the work kos is asking, he would have to change his message in a way a dependably left politician will never do.
Interestingwhat made Sanders a dependably left politician, but Warren not? Clearly, it wasnt actual policy or ideology. Krugmans grievance is as good as an explanation as any.
Remember, the Sanders campaign decided early on that his path to the nomination consisted of keeping his core 30% base intact, and nothing more: As The Atlantic noted, And then, Sanders aides believe, hell easily win enough delegates to put him into contention at the convention. They say they dont need him to get more than 30 percent to make that happen.
That was important, as weve discussed, because it set the tone for the entirety of their campaignfrom othering the supporters of other candidates as neoliberal corporatist shills (and worse) to sticking with a message that had failed Sanders already in 2016, when only two candidates had been in the race.
And its shocking how close to 30% his results have been:
Sanders share of the vote
Iowa 26.5%
New Hampshire 25.6%
Nevada 40.5%
South Carolina 19.8%
Alabama 16.5%
Arkansas 22.4%
California 33.8%
Colorado 36.1%
Maine 32.9%
Massachusetts 26.7%
Minnesota 29.9%
North Carolina 24.1%
Oklahoma 25.4%
Tennessee 25%
Texas 30%
Utah 34.6%
Vermont 50.8%
Virginia 23.1%
Take a guess what his overall percentage is so far.
28.9%
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ve wracked my brain wondering why so many on the progressive left, in this day and age of #MeToo and #BlackLivesMatter, would align with an old white guy when there were clear alternatives (unlike in 2016), and this makes as much sense as anything. One commenter on my last piece, on why Bernie Sanders fizzled upon contact with actual voters, wrote that, for Bernie to do some of the work kos is asking, he would have to change his message in a way a dependably left politician will never do.
Interestingwhat made Sanders a dependably left politician, but Warren not? Clearly, it wasnt actual policy or ideology. Krugmans grievance is as good as an explanation as any.
Remember, the Sanders campaign decided early on that his path to the nomination consisted of keeping his core 30% base intact, and nothing more: As The Atlantic noted, And then, Sanders aides believe, hell easily win enough delegates to put him into contention at the convention. They say they dont need him to get more than 30 percent to make that happen.
That was important, as weve discussed, because it set the tone for the entirety of their campaignfrom othering the supporters of other candidates as neoliberal corporatist shills (and worse) to sticking with a message that had failed Sanders already in 2016, when only two candidates had been in the race.
And its shocking how close to 30% his results have been:
Sanders share of the vote
Iowa 26.5%
New Hampshire 25.6%
Nevada 40.5%
South Carolina 19.8%
Alabama 16.5%
Arkansas 22.4%
California 33.8%
Colorado 36.1%
Maine 32.9%
Massachusetts 26.7%
Minnesota 29.9%
North Carolina 24.1%
Oklahoma 25.4%
Tennessee 25%
Texas 30%
Utah 34.6%
Vermont 50.8%
Virginia 23.1%
Take a guess what his overall percentage is so far.
28.9%
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Jennifer Rubin is a right-winger who accused Obama of siding with the "Muslim World" over the US.
DanTex
Mar 2020
#1
Well...it is # of delegates is what counts, not how many votes, to win nomination.
at140
Mar 2020
#12
I'm sure we'll find out in time, exactly who thought up that hair-brained plan, but it was at best
OnDoutside
Mar 2020
#16
This is an interesting comment on Senator Warren by Krugman. I regret that I will...
NNadir
Mar 2020
#36
" Jennifer Rubin is an American conservative columnist who writes the "Right Turn" blog for
pampango
Mar 2020
#20
I don't go to liberal sites to play the 'show me where this conservative is wrong' game.
pampango
Mar 2020
#75
I try not to respond when someone posts an article from a conservative and then expects me to agree
pampango
Mar 2020
#76
The point of posting conservative's opinion to a liberal board in the hope that liberals would agree
pampango
Mar 2020
#87
If you consider "ad hominem" to include refusing to acknowledge "Yeah, this conservative is
pampango
Mar 2020
#88
I am 'attacking' the idea of posting conservative's opinion pieces to a liberal site and expecting
pampango
Mar 2020
#94
LOL. That's rich coming from a regular poster of the Democrat-hating Jacobin articles.
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#54
i call BULL on that. she is on msnbc all the sound and she does not sound like a right winger
trueblue2007
Mar 2020
#112
You post Jacobin articles, and they have trashed the Democratic party - CURRENTLY -
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#52
Cenk's GOP past misogyny isn't an issue for you now since Bernie endorsed him...
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#62
MSM has really been taken in. They propped up the idea of a non-existent revolution and a
emmaverybo
Mar 2020
#10
i always wondered why he waited until 2016 to start this all important 'movement'
samnsara
Mar 2020
#11
Thank you Gothmog. The voters spoke in 18 and are speaking again. Big NO to our revolution
Thekaspervote
Mar 2020
#32
He began his career at the University of Chicago in 1962 with a segration protest
LiberalFighter
Mar 2020
#46
He didn't get noticed until he did that 8 1/2 hour filibuster in 2010 & put out a book about it.
Scurrilous
Mar 2020
#71
I was watching that during the last debate - Biden looked about 2 inches taller.
George II
Mar 2020
#44
Just because Bernie is not going to the White House doesn't mean he's not needed in the Senate.
marble falls
Mar 2020
#24
Sources more hateful than Rubin has been (especially lately) are praised here on DU.
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#60
i literally joined like an hour ago so idk what the precedent here is for bad sources
FrozenMoonage
Mar 2020
#65
The assessment of Sanders' demeanor has been made by others, including his workers, for years.
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#72
I can't see myself being able to tolerate being scolded nonstop for the next four years.
calimary
Mar 2020
#70
I think it will live on as a purity testing service named The Bernie Center for Progressive Politics
dalton99a
Mar 2020
#89
LOL Then sanders needs to say in the primary and lose some more primaries by large margins
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#99