Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Sanders's secret is out: He has no movement - The Washington Post [View all]FrozenMoonage
(7 posts)it also doesnt matter at all as this is about Rubin, not those others.
the broad assertions that Bernie's demeanor in debates were "ranting, raving" and the extremely suspect criticism of him "yelling too much" just serves to sound super biased. I also don't think that really manifests much in public discourse? I've yet to see a Biden supporter say "Bernie sucks cause he's loud". So yeah Bernie is loud I guess? but he's not abrasive towards anyone, he's not running a campaign in which he gives playground bully nicknames to everyone else. His responses in the debates aren't really ranting or raving he's been pretty articulate. I just don't see how this point really contributes to the supposed major turn-off of dem voters.
When she runs down why voters don't like him in the third paragraph she seems to once again assert a bias that his policy is straight up socialism, has "venom-filled" rhetoric, and the talking point of how he's "not willing to compromise". The last one specifically has always been a weird one to me as I don't particularly think that having ideas that are different than the status quo means he's not one for compromise? I guess when it comes to m4a he's making the demand of no american lacking healthcare, I'll give Rubin that much even though her weird conservative slant towards implying it's socialism is stupid.
I agree with her on how social media shouldn't be used as a barometer for public perception yeah thats always been dumb.
Also she's not wrong about how dems going towards Biden want a safer option but that's not really a new idea, is it?
I'd say the progressive movement (as to include Warren as well because she did a whole lotta legwork) was a success on influencing the public discourse of the democratic primary, and by extension the general election. Also her claim that all demographics within the dem party agree to go with Biden is wrong. Younger voters (aged 18-44) prefer Bernie and tend towards being progressive, so in a sense the future of left leaning discourse has been influenced greatly.
So yeah Rubin's assessment of Sanders not having a movement seems pretty shaky and is filtered through a generic conservative lens so she's still awful in my book. Sure he's probably not gonna be the nominee but progressive ideas are becoming more and more commonplace among dem voters. We'll see how history turns out.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided