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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Unreal. And people say Bernie's supporters are rude. [View all]Gothmog
(154,643 posts)148. Women are rejecting Sanders
sanders is losing primaries due to lack of support from women voters. It appears that in part women voters reject the conduct of Bernie bros
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For all the talk about Sen. Bernie Sanderss diverse coalition and progressive outlook (and all the questions about the likability of female candidates), it should not escape notice that the biggest group of Democratic voters women overwhelmingly rejected the Vermont independent.
In Michigan, women made up 54 percent of the electorate; former vice president Joe Biden won 58 percent among these voters, compared to 35 percent for Sanders. In Missouri, women also accounted for 54 percent of the electorate; they chose Biden 64 to 32 percent. In Mississippi, 58 percent of the electorate was female; women chose Biden 83 to 12 percent.
Go back to Super Tuesday. Bidens median support among women was 12 points higher than Sanderss (37 to 25 percent) but only four points higher among men. In all Super Tuesday state exit polls, women made up more than 50 percent of the electorate reaching roughly 60 percent in some cases (e.g. 58 percent in Minnesota, 61 percent in Alabama, 59 percent in Maine). That reflects the huge gender gap between the two parties that has only widened during the Trump era.....
Womens aversion to Sanders may also be a rejection of the Bernie Bros phenomenon the obnoxious harassment and even threats directed at women (including journalists and union leaders, as was the case in Nevada). Plenty of women did not think it was the least bit improbable that Sanders told Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) he did not think a woman could win. The only other candidate whose campaign ethos is so infused with testosterone is Trump.
The degree to which Sanders has turned off women is a fundamental problem for the left, which contrary to its self-conception is largely white and male. It is hard to present oneself as the vanguard of a diverse party when your coalition on race and gender (but not age) looks like a Republican coalition. Moreover, it is impossible to win as a Democrat without the support and enthusiasm of women.
In Michigan, women made up 54 percent of the electorate; former vice president Joe Biden won 58 percent among these voters, compared to 35 percent for Sanders. In Missouri, women also accounted for 54 percent of the electorate; they chose Biden 64 to 32 percent. In Mississippi, 58 percent of the electorate was female; women chose Biden 83 to 12 percent.
Go back to Super Tuesday. Bidens median support among women was 12 points higher than Sanderss (37 to 25 percent) but only four points higher among men. In all Super Tuesday state exit polls, women made up more than 50 percent of the electorate reaching roughly 60 percent in some cases (e.g. 58 percent in Minnesota, 61 percent in Alabama, 59 percent in Maine). That reflects the huge gender gap between the two parties that has only widened during the Trump era.....
Womens aversion to Sanders may also be a rejection of the Bernie Bros phenomenon the obnoxious harassment and even threats directed at women (including journalists and union leaders, as was the case in Nevada). Plenty of women did not think it was the least bit improbable that Sanders told Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) he did not think a woman could win. The only other candidate whose campaign ethos is so infused with testosterone is Trump.
The degree to which Sanders has turned off women is a fundamental problem for the left, which contrary to its self-conception is largely white and male. It is hard to present oneself as the vanguard of a diverse party when your coalition on race and gender (but not age) looks like a Republican coalition. Moreover, it is impossible to win as a Democrat without the support and enthusiasm of women.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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You're right that Bernie is tough as nails and resilient and ready to face the GOP.
DanTex
Mar 2020
#7
I can't agree that Bernie is tough as nails until he decides to release his medical records. n/t
zackymilly
Mar 2020
#21
Nope, those aren't medical records, let alone the 'full disclosure' he promised...
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#91
That's simply not true, everyone knows it, and his records are available on the internet.
DanTex
Mar 2020
#40
Whataboutism. Bernie alone said that he would release comprehensive records, and then reneged.
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#109
Sorry, you don't get to change the topic from Bernie's demand of Biden, because you can't defend it
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#113
Actually, what Biden does or does not do, does not excuse Senator Sanders' reneging
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#120
Sanders told Sanjay Gupta he would be "releasing his medical records related to the heart attack
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#74
LOL, Those aren't the medical records that he promised to release when he called for Biden to.
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#96
It's a standard medical release, as everyone knows. Doctors take letters like that seriously.
DanTex
Mar 2020
#58
Pretending to ignore that he called for Biden to release his medical records, while promising his
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#89
Then post the link to these "records." You know Trump claims his letters were records.
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#100
Another failed attempt to redirect... Bernie promised 'full disclosure" of his medical records,
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#90
'Standard' for a politician who promised comprehensive "medical records" by Jan 1?
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#87
It's been very, very difficult for some people to accept evidence that contradicts
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#95
Still blaming Bernie for the Warren supporters who brought the coffin to the Biden event?
DanTex
Mar 2020
#8
You keep posting that....I know why. What Bernie did in '16 is 180*'s from what you want now
AncientGeezer
Mar 2020
#43
Because I have no interest in re-litigating 2016. A lot happened, best not to re-litigate.
DanTex
Mar 2020
#46
Then he and his supporters should stay consistant...dont try to change rules
AncientGeezer
Mar 2020
#54
You are...You post constantly that the candidate (Bernie) with the most.....
AncientGeezer
Mar 2020
#59
The rule is 1991...NOT..the "most"...so it would be by definton..changing the rules.
AncientGeezer
Mar 2020
#61
"It's up to the delegates and the supers. The question is, will they respect democracy or not."
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#64
It's not a democractic process....you've been told that often about this.
AncientGeezer
Mar 2020
#67
It could be. Depends on whether the delegates decide to respect the will of the voters.
DanTex
Mar 2020
#68
It's documented history. The only one 're-litigating" is DanTex, because acknowledging that history
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#78
Well, it seems there's one rule for Sanders, and another for everyone else. Just ask DanTex.
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#77
I have been...I'd almost prefer to get coronavirus....that stays consistant...Unlike....
AncientGeezer
Mar 2020
#79
And I could be be Ironman but I'm not.. and....this election is too important to NOT follow..
AncientGeezer
Mar 2020
#83
"They could respect the Democratic will of the voters and unite behind the candidate with the most
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#97
Are you saying Gothmog is lying? How is reporting what they saw with their own eyes a
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#102
His sacred and righteous oppression rises to the level of abject holiness.
LanternWaste
Mar 2020
#110
If sanders is the nominee, the Russians will be playing video of sanders delegates booing Lewis
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#132
By 'documented" you mean like like a bunch of screen shots of uncited headlines and tweets
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#98
Whataboutism in an effort to deflect from a double digit loss in SC, bellwether of the
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#65
Not all billionaires are looters, but they benefit from some of the scam system that allows people
brewens
Mar 2020
#80
"Bernie Staffer Mocked Warren's Looks, Pete's Sexuality on Private Twitter Account"
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#101
I can see why you want to focus on Anything-Not-Bernie after his abject defeat this weekend.
LanternWaste
Mar 2020
#111
Hoarse Whisperer is a corporate marketing guy with clients including oil, pharma, etc.
DanTex
Mar 2020
#118
Sanders folks deleted their disgusting homophobic video...but it's been captured for posterity.
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#124
ask Betsy Londrigan, the democratic candidate for Il-13th about how rude sander's supporters are
beachbumbob
Mar 2020
#126
And they've ramped up the "Joe has dementia" attacks on Twitter, Facebook and Youtube etc. It
OnDoutside
Mar 2020
#138