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TomCADem

(17,791 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:23 AM Mar 2020

Joe Biden Can Be the Next Lyndon Johnson In Terms of Passing Landmark Legislation [View all]

Before he was President, Lyndon Johnson was a southern democrat who espoused moderate views. He was known as a master deal maker, and no one would have imagined that major bills like the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Food Stamp Act of 1964, the Housing and Urban Development Act of 1965; and the Social Security Amendments of 1965. Put another way, before he was President, Lyndon Johnson was hardly considered a liberal idealogue. What he knew how to do was pass legislation as a former Democratic Senate Leader.

Between Biden and Sanders, Joe Biden is the most similar to Lyndon Johnson. Biden, who served 36 years in the Senate before leaving to join Obama’s administration, authored 20 meaningful bills during his time in the Senate. His final two years in office, when he chaired the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, were notably active: In those two years, seven Biden-authored bills were signed into law. Of course, as a Vice-President, Biden was invaluable in the passage of the ACA.

In contrast, while Bernie introduced 324 bills, about three became law. This includes a bill naming a post office in Vermont and two more while Democrats had control (one naming another Vermont post office and another increasing veterans’ disability compensation). Bernie has been loud and outspoken and has made a career of attacking (and alienating) Democrats. In this sense, Bernie is like George McGovern who failed miserably at uniting the Democratic party. In the weeks leading to Super Tuesday, Bernie went all-in attacking the, "Democratic establishment," which alienated many Democrats and contributed to his huge losses.

The ability to develop coalitions is also on display in terms of the ability to get former rivals to endorse them. Biden is way ahead of Bernie on this metric with Bernie Sanders not even able to get his former protege and fellow Sanders Institute founder, Tulsi Gabbard, to endorse him.

I think a common mistake folks have is that they believe that the most ideologically rigid and vocal candidate will be the most effective. This is not true. For all of his faults, Lyndon Johnson was a master at developing the relationships to pass major liberal legislation despite the fact that he was hardly seen as an ideologue prior to his Presidency.

Ironically, if Bernie Sanders really wants to pass meaningful healthcare reform, it would be far better if Joe Biden were President and not him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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trump and gop shows all you need is executive orders beachbumbob Mar 2020 #1
No, the Republicans during the Obama administration Skidmore Mar 2020 #6
so how do that with lifetime appointments of federal judge? I am speaking reality beachbumbob Mar 2020 #11
Need to remove life time appointments, and put in place term limits for fed judges, esp'ly SCOTUS onetexan Mar 2020 #24
Fingers crossed he can change his ways and stand up to big banks mucifer Mar 2020 #2
Biden is now supporting Warren's bankruptcy proposal: Sloumeau Mar 2020 #4
Lyndon Johnson, a Crass Southern Moderate Democrat... TomCADem Mar 2020 #5
... William769 Mar 2020 #19
The president can only sign what ends up on his/her desk. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #3
Johnson wasn't just signing what ended up on his desk and deserves far more credit than that Ponietz Mar 2020 #7
Of course. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #8
Southern chairman were not amenable. They very well knew of the white flight that was undercutting empedocles Mar 2020 #12
LBJ pulled a lot of reluctant Congressional votes to pass his tremendous legislation. empedocles Mar 2020 #9
He also had a country still mourning a very popular president. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #13
JFK Himself Did Not Necessarily Push an Expansive Agenda TomCADem Mar 2020 #17
The Johnson Treatment: Pushing And Persuading Like LBJ TomCADem Mar 2020 #10
He also had a country still mourning JFK. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #14
There was also an anti republican Goldwater fear and a booming economy. empedocles Mar 2020 #20
We're going to have to give our president the senate, Hortensis Mar 2020 #15
That is my hope too. pwb Mar 2020 #16
excellent OP! William769 Mar 2020 #18
Interesting. H2O Man Mar 2020 #21
The Interesting Thing Is That Many Folks and Even Bernie Supporters Point to LBJ... TomCADem Mar 2020 #22
Right. H2O Man Mar 2020 #23
Thank for this, Tom! Cha Mar 2020 #25
I Voted Early In California for Warren TomCADem Mar 2020 #27
Ah I see.. Thank you! Cha Mar 2020 #28
There are Doers and Dreamers. We need both. But when things need doing, you pick the Doer. Midnight Writer Mar 2020 #26
Bernie's Absence From The Senate... TomCADem Mar 2020 #29
Joe needs to heal the nation Gothmog Mar 2020 #30
In order for that to happen, Joe needs a Democratic Senate as well as House. Let's make it happen! Hekate Mar 2020 #31
Absolutely! We need those suburban and rural crossovers Hortensis Mar 2020 #32
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