Democratic Primaries

kcr

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172. I agree. Worse than Tim Kaine

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:51 AM

Mar 2020

He cannot choose the candidate who wants to change nothing and seems to say no to everything. It doesn't have to be someone like Warren, but he still needs to go with someone more change-oriented in their platform. Especially after the devastation of Covid-19.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Why a Biden-Klobuchar ticket can beat Trump [View all] question everything Mar 2020 OP

My number one choice! BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #1

Agreed LArider Mar 2020 #169

Agree with you. I love Amy LakeArenal Mar 2020 #2

biden and the cookie monster would beat trump beachbumbob Mar 2020 #3

Harris is a much better pick. Nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #4

We already have California jimfields33 Mar 2020 #8

What states that Biden doesn't already appeal to? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #27

Minnesota liked both Amy and Joe in the primary, why not keep it in our column BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #34

Minnesota voted for Clinton in 08 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #37

"Leaning" Dem is not "solid blue". Solid Blue is California. Or Massachusetts. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #39

It has a Democratic governor Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #44

Minnesota was within 2% squirecam Mar 2020 #48

But Democrats still won it Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #56

I'll try this one last time. squirecam Mar 2020 #62

Obama won Florida twice Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #71

It's not problems. It's appeal. squirecam Mar 2020 #78

And why wouldn't Biden appeal to them? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #95

Why wouldn't Biden appeal to AA voters? squirecam Mar 2020 #102

He does Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #106

He needs help switching back women trump voters Mosby Mar 2020 #115

It's not an article Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #118

Michigan. Perhaps Iowa question everything Mar 2020 #35

How does Klobuchar bring more appeal in Michigan Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #40

Biden brings the base squirecam Mar 2020 #52

Polling has shown that Biden is already Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #60

Being a neighbor. Talking about midwestern concerns, language, tone question everything Mar 2020 #54

Will she bring out African-Americans in Detroit Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #64

Biden brings the AA vote. Amy brings the women. squirecam Mar 2020 #68

But will he bring them out like Obama did? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #74

Yes Biden will bring out the AA vote. squirecam Mar 2020 #76

And they don't like Biden? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #77

AA voters don't like Biden suddenly? squirecam Mar 2020 #81

No but Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #96

He's certainly doing way WAY better than Bernie, to the point that Bernie has given up on MS... ehrnst Mar 2020 #98

Is that suddenly necessary the minimum metric to support Biden? ehrnst Mar 2020 #100

No Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #105

Then what relevance does that metric have? ehrnst Mar 2020 #109

Read the thread Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #117

I did. My question stands. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2020 #120

The question is irrelevant Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #125

No, it's relevant. You just can't or don't want to answer. ehrnst Mar 2020 #133

It is irrelevant Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #138

Nope. Relevant. ehrnst Mar 2020 #141

It's not Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #143

It is. ehrnst Mar 2020 #144

It is not Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #145

It is relevant... ehrnst Mar 2020 #146

No it's not Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #147

Yes it is. ehrnst Mar 2020 #148

It is Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #149

Silly... ehrnst Mar 2020 #150

Yup Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #151

Tagurit... ehrnst Mar 2020 #152

Silly... Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #157

Tagurit ehrnst Mar 2020 #161

... Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #164

TagURit.. ehrnst Mar 2020 #165

Very Relevant! Cha Mar 2020 #158

Actually BlueWI Mar 2020 #160

Exactly Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #162

Thx. eom BlueWI Mar 2020 #163

+1. Biden said he would choose a WoC as VP radius777 Mar 2020 #166

Moderates lost to Trump last time (based on the electoral college vote, the only one that matters) Liberty Belle Mar 2020 #5

The moderates won us 2018. squirecam Mar 2020 #11

Biden sent Klobachar to Michigan...I wonder if this is a signal? Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #6

Amy could be Joe's Sarah Palin RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #7

I'm recalling that Kamala had some similar gripes against her BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #12

Her job isn't to appeal to the base. squirecam Mar 2020 #16

Yes. The base will be 100% with us against Trump, we need to keep the BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #25

Sorry, I disagree. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #45

This is really over the top Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #17

I know, that was a real insult. Amy is 1000 times smarter than Palin. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #26

I'm not calling Amy... RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #29

I genuinely, sincerely don't believe there are any black people, latinos, etc. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #32

Exactly squirecam Mar 2020 #38

Simple.... POC RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #47

Biden already has AA voters. squirecam Mar 2020 #55

Does truth matter to the GOP? RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #61

The base isn't going to leave Joe. It's nonsense. squirecam Mar 2020 #65

Again, think past 2020 RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #69

That stuff has been debunked here many times. squirecam Mar 2020 #75

Do you think the GOP cares? RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #80

So now black voters need swag to Vote? squirecam Mar 2020 #82

Amy was not nationally known until very, very recently. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #58

The NAACP disagrees RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #63

One small group has an issue. And they are wrong on it. squirecam Mar 2020 #83

You're missing the point entirely.... RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #86

Trump didn't play fair in 2018. squirecam Mar 2020 #88

who said anything about AOC? RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #89

She is Not ready to be VP. squirecam Mar 2020 #93

I get it... RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #94

I've posted on several alternative choices that would be ready. squirecam Mar 2020 #103

I'd love to see Amy as veep Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #53

The NAACP and BLM disagrees RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #66

Joe won with a coalition squirecam Mar 2020 #85

Palin crashed the ticket squirecam Mar 2020 #33

First you connect Amy to Palin LakeArenal Mar 2020 #126

SMH RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #129

Sure. I'm not the one who threw Palin into the mix. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #132

KHive, NAACP, BLM, Anti LGBT money.... RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #134

Okay, we get it. You don't like Amy. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #135

Did you see where I am a Pete supporter and said.. RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #154

Why try so hard to convince me? LakeArenal Mar 2020 #155

+1. Many white folks just don't get it. radius777 Mar 2020 #140

It does not follow. Your personal inferences are not absolutes. LanternWaste Mar 2020 #168

And from a newbie on these pages question everything Mar 2020 #41

And? RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #72

Amy Klobuchar has been liked on these pages question everything Mar 2020 #110

Not in the pretext I did, here's why RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #111

As mentioned here repeatedly question everything Mar 2020 #112

We'll have to agree... RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #114

I don't agree, Baked Potato Mar 2020 #46

You're comparing Amy Klobuchar to Sarah Palin? cwydro Mar 2020 #119

Agree. Joe has already said he would choose a WoC, radius777 Mar 2020 #139

I watched Amy closely and think she has enough "street fight" to withstand anything Trump could dish Frustratedlady Mar 2020 #9

Exactly. Amy is a bit of a street fighter, I think people underestimated and ignored her BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #18

Amy, like Kaine, would sink any chances of winning. floppyboo Mar 2020 #10

Tim Kaine didn't sink Hillary. He didn't help much, but he didn't sink her. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #15

Need to look at the Progressive record in the 2020 primaries. Awful. empedocles Mar 2020 #19

Run the 2018 playbook and we win. squirecam Mar 2020 #104

It is Sheila Jackson Lee and Celerity Mar 2020 #22

Wrong. It was a hit piece. squirecam Mar 2020 #31

some defend, some don't, and like i said, pass, for a number of reasons Celerity Mar 2020 #50

Well... there is one more... ehrnst Mar 2020 #84

yep, and those 3 are so not the only ones nt Celerity Mar 2020 #90

Are we going to somehow put back into place the 1965 Voting Rights Act pnwmom Mar 2020 #87

What are you talking about, floppyboo? Hillary got 66 Million Cha Mar 2020 #159

No left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #13

Pass. She will be Kaine 2.0 Do we never learn? The author, Henry Olsen, is a RW Rethug asshole btw Celerity Mar 2020 #14

The base isn't going to win us this election. squirecam Mar 2020 #21

pass, there are far better candidates Celerity Mar 2020 #24

Then Amy could help Joe appeal to people who might drift towards the Orange Doofus. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #30

Killing the messenger? Why not debate the merits? question everything Mar 2020 #51

I have laid out my issues with her many times, and this is not killing the messenger, it is Celerity Mar 2020 #57

Until Kaine was picked, most voters have never heard of him question everything Mar 2020 #99

This is where I am too Bettie Mar 2020 #124

a very good question indeed Celerity Mar 2020 #137

That's what a general election is. squirecam Mar 2020 #59

Been saying it for over a year. bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #20

Right squirecam Mar 2020 #23

Yes!! Freddie Mar 2020 #28

I disagree, Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #36

Biden already appeals to the base. squirecam Mar 2020 #43

"Owing" anybody anything should not be a factor in this election LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #97

This argument really resonates with me. Mme. Defarge Mar 2020 #42

One more point--also totally agree with the Clinton-Gore comparison. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #49

Beto O'Rourke cloudbase Mar 2020 #67

Exactly. TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #79

I like both but slightly prefer Beto to Amy Awsi Dooger Mar 2020 #107

We have to have a woman. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #167

I've thought about Beto also - if we snagged Texas it's basically over for Pres. Dickhead ElementaryPenguin Mar 2020 #108

I'd be down with Beto as well ... mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #130

I'm not sure about this being a winning ticket.... spicysista Mar 2020 #70

Harris qualifies as she can be VP day 1. squirecam Mar 2020 #92

I agree. Worse than Tim Kaine kcr Mar 2020 #172

I like Amy, she was my #2 after Harris dropped out (after Warren) obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #73

Klobuchar is perfectly qualified MD shmoo Mar 2020 #91

ANY ticket can beat Trump - it's in the hands of the voters. Divided we fall. Runningdawg Mar 2020 #101

I think this analysis is spot on. Mosby Mar 2020 #113

No way. alarimer Mar 2020 #116

It is a great way to signal Bettie Mar 2020 #121

Amy is progressive. squirecam Mar 2020 #123

I said Kamala all along, but when she didn't endorse him tavernier Mar 2020 #122

we have so many talented women who could fill the bill... samnsara Mar 2020 #127

Who gives a rip about which part of the party you are? It's about TURNOUT people underpants Mar 2020 #128

As stated above, Biden has shown us that he appeals to people of color question everything Mar 2020 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author USALiberal Mar 2020 #131

Amy is a good choice from a long-range strategic POV jmowreader Mar 2020 #142

Terrible choice if true. Going after Republican Never-Trumpers perhaps? YOHABLO Mar 2020 #153

Biden needs a young western female Hispanic as Veep. Funtatlaguy Mar 2020 #156

Horrible choice kcr Mar 2020 #170

+1000 Celerity Mar 2020 #171

Why? She's been a top vote getter in her state and a very effective Senator... TreasonousBastard Mar 2020 #173

That may be. But her campaign was terrible. kcr Mar 2020 #174

How sad that on these pages we get a dismissal because one is too lazy to search question everything Mar 2020 #175