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Polybius

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51. Well we have three winners and only one loser over the past 60 years or so
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 07:24 PM
Mar 2020

So listing Kerry actually helps your argument. Without him, they are 3-0 when picking a primary opponent. So Biden would be in great company.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
Correction. LisaM Mar 2020 #1
LOL :-) Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #8
Thank you.Bush should have known right then that there was going to be trouble. oldsoftie Mar 2020 #12
Dubya should've known Todd79 Mar 2020 #49
As Ann Richards said: MyOwnPeace Mar 2020 #87
I will never forget that burn. :-D n/t nolawarlock Mar 2020 #405
All bets are off. Do not agree. Biden will do what is best for the times and the people. Nt Ninga Mar 2020 #2
There didn't used to be women candidates LisaM Mar 2020 #5
Yep! Ninga Mar 2020 #7
Biden needs to do what will help him win Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #6
And thats ALL that matters at this point oldsoftie Mar 2020 #13
not a normal year handmade34 Mar 2020 #3
You forgot Bartlet/Hoynes. William769 Mar 2020 #4
I've been repeatedly attacked because ... left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #9
Biden must choose a VP who will help him win Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #10
This is absolutely correct. Sloumeau Mar 2020 #11
Bill Clinton did, too StarfishSaver Mar 2020 #14
Gore didn't run in 92 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #15
You're right. I was mistaken StarfishSaver Mar 2020 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Mar 2020 #52
Gore was a former Presidential candidate though. He ran first in 1988. It was big news TeamPooka Mar 2020 #16
Yes he didn't run against Clinton Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #19
He needs a running mate who can help add a swing state. The electoral college is what matters. Skya Rhen Mar 2020 #17
Exactly nt Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #20
I don't want anyone who has made disparaging remarks about Joe LakeArenal Mar 2020 #116
So true - we don't need video clips of of such disparaging remarks running 24/7 during the GE. No Skya Rhen Mar 2020 #329
I think that could be a big plus for Klobuchar. lastlib Mar 2020 #363
It's an interesting observation bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #18
You didn't mention quite a few Polybius Mar 2020 #21
Yes Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #25
Why not? Polybius Mar 2020 #35
Losers aren't as relevant Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #39
You have to mention them because your OP doesn't make exception Polybius Mar 2020 #43
Losers aren't relevant Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #47
It's your OP so that's your call, but it still means your subject line is in error. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #50
Big deal Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #55
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Mar 2020 #149
OK you have a point Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #157
I hear ya! H2O Man Mar 2020 #226
Then say so in your OP Polybius Mar 2020 #53
Please Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #56
It's an out an out lie Polybius Mar 2020 #274
I agree. He's moving the goal posts from his original post. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #58
classic goal post moving. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #57
No Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #59
Yes wyldwolf Mar 2020 #61
Please stop posting misinformation Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #63
Learn history wyldwolf Mar 2020 #66
Still irrelevant to the OP Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #68
Only in that I didn't stick to your "70 year" limit. And your later arguments were false wyldwolf Mar 2020 #70
Thanks again for proving my point Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #72
Anyone reading knows you're point hasn't been proven. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #73
Again Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #75
Again wyldwolf Mar 2020 #76
Then prove me wrong Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #81
I already have. Everyone read: wyldwolf Mar 2020 #84
Then prove me wrong Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #82
I already have wyldwolf Mar 2020 #85
No you haven't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #89
yes I have. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #91
25% is less then 75% Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #93
of course it is, but 25% isn't the exception to the rule wyldwolf Mar 2020 #95
OK Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #97
How can quoting your post be "playing semantic games?" wyldwolf Mar 2020 #100
Please Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #102
"75% is 3x more than 25%" but it isn't "the exception to the rule." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #103
More semantics games Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #108
You don't know the definition of "exception to the rule." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #110
Thanks again Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #113
quoting you isn't "semantic games." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #117
Yes it is Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #119
No it isn't. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #126
Yes it is Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #129
No it isn't. And happy to 'kick' for the entertainment of others. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #131
Great! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #133
It is great. And also entertaining. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #134
Good Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #136
It is good. Always good to disprove a goal post mover. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #141
I'm not the one moving goal posts here Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #143
Here are you goal post moves wyldwolf Mar 2020 #145
No I used a 70 year time frame Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #148
you've repeatedly denied you used a 70 year time frame. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #150
Yes I used a 70 year time frame Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #154
but you've repeatedly denied it. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #156
I never set a limit Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #160
you did in your OP wyldwolf Mar 2020 #162
Nope Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #167
yep wyldwolf Mar 2020 #172
Well? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #174
I've never said you used a word limit. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #175
Agreed I never used the word limit Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #182
why are you referring to a 'word limit' then? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #185
Are you now denying that you accused me of setting a limit? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #192
I am denying I said you used a word limit, yes. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #193
Yes you did Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #209
neither of your links say I said you set a 'word' limit wyldwolf Mar 2020 #211
Stop playing dishonest games Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #215
I'm not. Quoting you isn't being dishonest wyldwolf Mar 2020 #216
So then quote me Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #218
I already have. Multiple times. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #220
No you haven't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #223
I haven't said you've used the word limit. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #225
Yes you have Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #227
Give me a direct quote by me saying you used a 'word limit.' wyldwolf Mar 2020 #229
Right here Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #232
Right. Your OP set a 70 year limit, not a word limit. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #233
No it didn't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #235
yes it does, and please point out where I said anything about a word limit. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #238
It doesn't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #240
It does. And where have I mentioned any "word" limit? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #241
Please stop playing these games Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #244
Where have I said you set a word limit? Quote me. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #246
I never did Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #252
you keep saying you didn't use a 'word' limit. No one has said you did. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #254
Please Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #256
Please wyldwolf Mar 2020 #257
More games Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #259
You call them 'games.' I call them your direct quotes. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #261
They are games Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #263
directly quoting you isn't a game. It's fun, though. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #265
You're not directly quoting me Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #267
yes I am. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #269
No you are not Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #272
Directly quoting you isn't a silly game. It's fun, though. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #275
But you're not directly quoting me Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #291
yes I am wyldwolf Mar 2020 #293
Nope you are not Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #294
yep I am. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #296
No you're not. Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #300
Yes I am and yes I did. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #301
No you didn't. Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #303
Yes I did wyldwolf Mar 2020 #305
OK Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #309
ok wyldwolf Mar 2020 #312
I probably just wasted 10 minutes of my life that I'll never get back, but I'm ALSO Grown2Hate Mar 2020 #402
well catsudon Mar 2020 #22
This is not a normal year pinkstarburst Mar 2020 #23
True he might Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #28
This isn't a normal election season. Anything could happen. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #26
That's what people said about a brokered convention too Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #38
With Bernie still in the mix, anything is possible. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #40
Yeah right Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #42
Reagan picked Bush. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #27
Obama picked Biden. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #29
I don't care what you advise, lol. I 100% expect it to be Harris. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #30
And if it isn't? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #31
It's Harris because she is high profile on national stage, boosts AA turnout and is charismatic wishstar Mar 2020 #41
Can she help flip a swing state? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #48
Kerry picked Edwards in 2004. (nt) nsd Mar 2020 #32
took 32 replies to point that out. WOW. nt. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #33
I mentioned it in post 21 Polybius Mar 2020 #45
Kerry lost Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #36
And? Polybius Mar 2020 #44
And if I included losers Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #46
Well we have three winners and only one loser over the past 60 years or so Polybius Mar 2020 #51
3 out of 10 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #54
Wrong Polybius Mar 2020 #273
Maybe/Maybe not Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #278
Sure Polybius Mar 2020 #282
Never said that it was a bad thing Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #289
Gotcha Polybius Mar 2020 #403
FDR choose primary opponent John Nance Garner wyldwolf Mar 2020 #34
So? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #37
Goal post moving aside... wyldwolf Mar 2020 #60
No moving any goal posts Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #62
Perhaps you don't know the definition of 'goal post moving.' wyldwolf Mar 2020 #64
Time frame is irrelevant Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #65
then why set it? And why later claim losing tickets don't count? Let's review: wyldwolf Mar 2020 #67
Thanks for proving my point! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #69
Anyone reading knows you're point hasn't been proven. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #71
OK then post actual facts that disprove it Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #74
Your OP is clearly false. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #77
OK Then prove it false Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #79
It also said nominees picking a rival is "the exception, not the rule." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #83
OK Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #88
you're spending a lot of time on something you're so clearly wrong about. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #90
Then prove me wrong Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #92
I already have, your goal post moving aside wyldwolf Mar 2020 #94
I haven't moved any goal posts Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #99
you've done it constantly wyldwolf Mar 2020 #101
Please Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #104
25% of the time isn't the "exception to the rule." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #105
Still playing silly semantics games Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #107
quoting you isn't "semantic games." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #111
Please Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #114
Please. 25% of the time isn't, to quote you "the exception to the rule." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #115
More semantics games Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #121
quoting you isn't "semantic games." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #122
Yes it is Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #124
No it isn't. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #127
Great points, although Jack Kemp was not a primary rival in 1996 Polybius Mar 2020 #404
I already have, your goal post moving aside wyldwolf Mar 2020 #78
Nice Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #80
You're goal post moving again. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #86
That's a silly gotcha point Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #96
It's a fact. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #98
No it's not Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #106
yes it is, you're goal post moving aside wyldwolf Mar 2020 #109
And where did I use the word limit? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #112
"word limit?" Who's mentioned "word limit." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #120
No as an example Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #123
Show me a link that says "primaries began in 1912." LOL wyldwolf Mar 2020 #125
Here you go Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #128
I'll quote your link wyldwolf Mar 2020 #130
In 1910, Oregon became the first state to establish a presidential preference primary Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #135
sure, but that wasn't 1912. Nor was Florida's in 1901 wyldwolf Mar 2020 #140
There was no Presidential election in 1910 or 1901 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #146
So? There were primaries. Is your link lying? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #147
OK then please post evidence of Presidential primaries prior to 1912 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #153
I did, using YOUR link. The link YOU gave. Should I quote again? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #155
Enacted? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #159
So your link is lying? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #163
Never said it was Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #165
you're disputing your own link wyldwolf Mar 2020 #166
Not at all Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #168
yes you are wyldwolf Mar 2020 #170
Nope Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #173
You've lost faith in your link wyldwolf Mar 2020 #176
Not at all Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #181
apparently so. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #183
Nope Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #189
yep wyldwolf Mar 2020 #191
No Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #196
yes wyldwolf Mar 2020 #198
No Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #203
Yes wyldwolf Mar 2020 #205
No Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #206
It was your link, not mine. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #208
And the link never says that primaries were held prior to 1912 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #210
yes it does. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #212
Show where it does Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #213
I already have. Multiple times. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #214
No you haven't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #217
yes I have. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #219
No you haven't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #221
yes I have wyldwolf Mar 2020 #222
Claim that you have over and over Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #224
Claim that i haven't over and over wyldwolf Mar 2020 #228
No the links make it true Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #230
Exactly. Your link makes what I said true. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #231
No it doesn't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #234
Yes it does. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #236
OK then point out where it does Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #237
I already have. Multiple times. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #239
No you haven't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #242
yes I have multiple times. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #243
Where? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #245
Your link. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #248
Link doesn't say that Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #249
yes it does. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #251
It doesn't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #253
It does. And I've quoted it several times. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #255
And it never says any primaries were held prior to 1912 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #258
yes it does. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #260
No it doesn't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #262
yes it is. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #264
Nope Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #266
yep wyldwolf Mar 2020 #268
Then show where it does Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #270
I already have. Multiple times. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #271
Then show me again Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #279
No, I already have multiple times. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #280
No you haven't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #288
yes I have wyldwolf Mar 2020 #298
Weak comeback nt Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #315
yet stronger than all of yours. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #317
Truth is strength Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #322
which is why all your non-points have been weak. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #323
I've only made one point Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #331
one initial point, then constant goal posts moves to bolster it. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #332
No you're the one moving goal post Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #341
You started goal post moving the moment you said losing tickets didn't count. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #343
I don't think they are relevant Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #357
which only weakens your point wyldwolf Mar 2020 #358
Not a point but an observation Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #381
A point wyldwolf Mar 2020 #383
Call it what you like if it makes you happy Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #386
Thanks! Most would agree wyldwolf Mar 2020 #387
I would hope they agree with facts Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #390
Give some and we'll see. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #391
OK Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #393
You're still dodging the ridiculous claim wyldwolf Mar 2020 #396
This post counts winners and losers Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #397
Your op doesn't. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #399
But where is it factually wrong. Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #401
Save your breath, their argument is specious and kind of silly Dream Girl Mar 2020 #118
You're free to disprove my premise Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #132
That was't your premise wyldwolf Mar 2020 #138
Yes it was Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #142
it wasn't the title of your OP wyldwolf Mar 2020 #144
Yes "Most Nominees don't pick a former primary opponent as VP." Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #151
But you just said it WASN'T the title of your OP. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #152
Yes that is the title of my OP Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #158
In post #142 you said the title was something else. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #161
No I didn't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #164
yes you did. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #169
No that is dishonest Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #171
quoting you is dishonest? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #177
Yes when you selectively edit it Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #178
A quote isn't an edit. I directly quoted you. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #180
You edited it Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #186
where? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #190
Here Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #195
No edits there. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #197
Please Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #201
Please wyldwolf Mar 2020 #204
Each election is unique treestar Mar 2020 #137
Very true Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #139
Man. This thread started dumb and just got dumber. Squinch Mar 2020 #179
You're telling me! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #184
I lulzed. Squinch Mar 2020 #187
He called your OP dumb, and you agreed, LOL. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #194
He called the thread dumb Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #200
the OP started the thread, and is the dumbest part wyldwolf Mar 2020 #207
Just a simple observation of history Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #281
tainted by your goal post moving and caveats to lend more credence to a flawed premise. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #283
What is flawed? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #290
So a candidate who picks a primary rival but loses didn't really pick a primary rival? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #295
Never claimed that Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #297
yes you did. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #299
Here we go again Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #302
Here we go again wyldwolf Mar 2020 #304
Not denying anything Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #307
Sure you are. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #310
Nope Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #313
yep wyldwolf Mar 2020 #316
Nope Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #319
yep! And you're welcome for the kick. Happy to do it. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #321
Nope and thanks again! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #324
Yep! And you're welcome. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #325
Nope Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #336
yep! And you're welcome. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #339
No Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #342
Yes wyldwolf Mar 2020 #344
Nope and thanks! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #346
yes and your welcome! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #348
No Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #352
Yes wyldwolf Mar 2020 #354
Nope! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #361
Yep! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #362
False! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #366
True! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #369
Nope and thanks again! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #371
Yep! And you're welcome again! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #373
No, no, no!!! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #375
Yes, yes, yes! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #377
No! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #378
Yes! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #379
Nada! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #384
This message was self-deleted by its author Polybius Mar 2020 #276
yup, a dumb op by someone who can't stand to be proven wrong wyldwolf Mar 2020 #188
Where have I been proven wrong? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #199
through out the thread, which is why you've moved goal posts like these: wyldwolf Mar 2020 #202
Never moved any goal posts Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #247
Sure you did. Like "losing tickets don't count." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #250
And I still don't think they do Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #284
That's hysterical! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #285
And most nominees don't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #287
But many do, including those who lose the GE. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #306
Yes many do Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #328
And 25% is no where near being an exception to the rule as you've contended. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #330
Still only 25% Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #333
and still nowhere near being an exception to the rule as you've contended. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #334
But it is still most Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #338
but certainly not an exception to the rule as you've contended. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #340
Still 3 times as more Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #345
but not an exception to the rule as you contended. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #347
But still most 3 times as more. Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #351
but certainly not an exception to the rule as you've contended. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #353
No that was based on responding to your post Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #364
I went back to the late 1700s wyldwolf Mar 2020 #367
What primaries were held in the late 1700s? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #388
Here Polybius Mar 2020 #277
I wasn't counting losing tickets Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #286
You moved a goal post wyldwolf Mar 2020 #308
Not at all Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #311
A complete goal post move wyldwolf Mar 2020 #314
Well before it was 30% Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #318
Why 1912? You originally said "going back 70 years." Goal post move. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #320
Last 10 elections Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #326
Why last 10 elections? Why not every election - including losing tickets? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #327
10 seemed like a nice round number Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #335
So is 12. So is 20. But 10 seemed like a number that would bolster your point best. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #337
I don't care how many you want to look at Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #349
because you know the more elections looked at, the weaker your point gets. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #350
Not a point Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #355
It was your point wyldwolf Mar 2020 #356
Really? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #359
Yes, really. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #360
So what time frame do you want to set? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #365
How about the very first election? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #370
OK Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #374
Already posted the first two wyldwolf Mar 2020 #376
Then post the rest Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #380
It's your point to prove. You're op. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #382
I've proved it here: Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #385
That wasn't proof. And you've been proved wrong. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #389
How wasn't it proof? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #392
We must have missed that in your op. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #394
Please show me where what I posted was in error? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #395
Please show us that in your op. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #398
Well you are free to show where my OP is factually incorrect Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #400
I am comfortable with whoever Joe selects Gothmog Mar 2020 #292
Kennedy picked LBJ, Reagan picked George H.W. Bush hlthe2b Mar 2020 #368
Very true Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #372
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