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Dem4Life1102

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74. OK then post actual facts that disprove it

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:25 AM

Mar 2020

So far you haven't. Show me the overwhelming number of times that a nominee has chosen a former primary opponent as VP. Please go right ahead.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Most Nominees don't pick a former primary opponent as VP [View all] Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 OP

Correction. LisaM Mar 2020 #1

LOL :-) Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #8

Thank you.Bush should have known right then that there was going to be trouble. oldsoftie Mar 2020 #12

Dubya should've known Todd79 Mar 2020 #49

As Ann Richards said: MyOwnPeace Mar 2020 #87

I will never forget that burn. :-D n/t nolawarlock Mar 2020 #405

All bets are off. Do not agree. Biden will do what is best for the times and the people. Nt Ninga Mar 2020 #2

There didn't used to be women candidates LisaM Mar 2020 #5

Yep! Ninga Mar 2020 #7

Biden needs to do what will help him win Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #6

And thats ALL that matters at this point oldsoftie Mar 2020 #13

not a normal year handmade34 Mar 2020 #3

You forgot Bartlet/Hoynes. William769 Mar 2020 #4

I've been repeatedly attacked because ... left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #9

Biden must choose a VP who will help him win Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #10

This is absolutely correct. Sloumeau Mar 2020 #11

Bill Clinton did, too StarfishSaver Mar 2020 #14

Gore didn't run in 92 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #15

You're right. I was mistaken StarfishSaver Mar 2020 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Mar 2020 #52

Gore was a former Presidential candidate though. He ran first in 1988. It was big news TeamPooka Mar 2020 #16

Yes he didn't run against Clinton Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #19

He needs a running mate who can help add a swing state. The electoral college is what matters. Skya Rhen Mar 2020 #17

Exactly nt Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #20

I don't want anyone who has made disparaging remarks about Joe LakeArenal Mar 2020 #116

So true - we don't need video clips of of such disparaging remarks running 24/7 during the GE. No Skya Rhen Mar 2020 #329

I think that could be a big plus for Klobuchar. lastlib Mar 2020 #363

It's an interesting observation bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #18

You didn't mention quite a few Polybius Mar 2020 #21

Yes Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #25

Why not? Polybius Mar 2020 #35

Losers aren't as relevant Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #39

You have to mention them because your OP doesn't make exception Polybius Mar 2020 #43

Losers aren't relevant Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #47

It's your OP so that's your call, but it still means your subject line is in error. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #50

Big deal Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #55

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Mar 2020 #149

OK you have a point Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #157

I hear ya! H2O Man Mar 2020 #226

Then say so in your OP Polybius Mar 2020 #53

Please Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #56

It's an out an out lie Polybius Mar 2020 #274

I agree. He's moving the goal posts from his original post. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #58

classic goal post moving. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #57

No Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #59

Yes wyldwolf Mar 2020 #61

Please stop posting misinformation Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #63

Learn history wyldwolf Mar 2020 #66

Still irrelevant to the OP Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #68

Only in that I didn't stick to your "70 year" limit. And your later arguments were false wyldwolf Mar 2020 #70

Thanks again for proving my point Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #72

Anyone reading knows you're point hasn't been proven. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #73

Again Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #75

Again wyldwolf Mar 2020 #76

Then prove me wrong Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #81

I already have. Everyone read: wyldwolf Mar 2020 #84

Then prove me wrong Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #82

I already have wyldwolf Mar 2020 #85

No you haven't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #89

yes I have. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #91

25% is less then 75% Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #93

of course it is, but 25% isn't the exception to the rule wyldwolf Mar 2020 #95

OK Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #97

How can quoting your post be "playing semantic games?" wyldwolf Mar 2020 #100

Please Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #102

"75% is 3x more than 25%" but it isn't "the exception to the rule." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #103

More semantics games Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #108

You don't know the definition of "exception to the rule." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #110

Thanks again Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #113

quoting you isn't "semantic games." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #117

Yes it is Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #119

No it isn't. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #126

Yes it is Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #129

No it isn't. And happy to 'kick' for the entertainment of others. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #131

Great! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #133

It is great. And also entertaining. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #134

Good Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #136

It is good. Always good to disprove a goal post mover. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #141

I'm not the one moving goal posts here Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #143

Here are you goal post moves wyldwolf Mar 2020 #145

No I used a 70 year time frame Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #148

you've repeatedly denied you used a 70 year time frame. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #150

Yes I used a 70 year time frame Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #154

but you've repeatedly denied it. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #156

I never set a limit Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #160

you did in your OP wyldwolf Mar 2020 #162

Nope Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #167

yep wyldwolf Mar 2020 #172

Well? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #174

I've never said you used a word limit. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #175

Agreed I never used the word limit Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #182

why are you referring to a 'word limit' then? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #185

Are you now denying that you accused me of setting a limit? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #192

I am denying I said you used a word limit, yes. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #193

Yes you did Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #209

neither of your links say I said you set a 'word' limit wyldwolf Mar 2020 #211

Stop playing dishonest games Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #215

I'm not. Quoting you isn't being dishonest wyldwolf Mar 2020 #216

So then quote me Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #218

I already have. Multiple times. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #220

No you haven't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #223

I haven't said you've used the word limit. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #225

Yes you have Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #227

Give me a direct quote by me saying you used a 'word limit.' wyldwolf Mar 2020 #229

Right here Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #232

Right. Your OP set a 70 year limit, not a word limit. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #233

No it didn't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #235

yes it does, and please point out where I said anything about a word limit. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #238

It doesn't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #240

It does. And where have I mentioned any "word" limit? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #241

Please stop playing these games Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #244

Where have I said you set a word limit? Quote me. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #246

I never did Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #252

you keep saying you didn't use a 'word' limit. No one has said you did. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #254

Please Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #256

Please wyldwolf Mar 2020 #257

More games Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #259

You call them 'games.' I call them your direct quotes. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #261

They are games Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #263

directly quoting you isn't a game. It's fun, though. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #265

You're not directly quoting me Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #267

yes I am. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #269

No you are not Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #272

Directly quoting you isn't a silly game. It's fun, though. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #275

But you're not directly quoting me Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #291

yes I am wyldwolf Mar 2020 #293

Nope you are not Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #294

yep I am. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #296

No you're not. Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #300

Yes I am and yes I did. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #301

No you didn't. Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #303

Yes I did wyldwolf Mar 2020 #305

OK Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #309

ok wyldwolf Mar 2020 #312

I probably just wasted 10 minutes of my life that I'll never get back, but I'm ALSO Grown2Hate Mar 2020 #402

well catsudon Mar 2020 #22

This is not a normal year pinkstarburst Mar 2020 #23

True he might Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #28

This isn't a normal election season. Anything could happen. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #26

That's what people said about a brokered convention too Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #38

With Bernie still in the mix, anything is possible. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #40

Yeah right Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #42

Reagan picked Bush. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #27

Obama picked Biden. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #29

I don't care what you advise, lol. I 100% expect it to be Harris. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #30

And if it isn't? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #31

It's Harris because she is high profile on national stage, boosts AA turnout and is charismatic wishstar Mar 2020 #41

Can she help flip a swing state? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #48

Kerry picked Edwards in 2004. (nt) nsd Mar 2020 #32

took 32 replies to point that out. WOW. nt. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #33

I mentioned it in post 21 Polybius Mar 2020 #45

Kerry lost Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #36

And? Polybius Mar 2020 #44

And if I included losers Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #46

Well we have three winners and only one loser over the past 60 years or so Polybius Mar 2020 #51

3 out of 10 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #54

Wrong Polybius Mar 2020 #273

Maybe/Maybe not Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #278

Sure Polybius Mar 2020 #282

Never said that it was a bad thing Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #289

Gotcha Polybius Mar 2020 #403

FDR choose primary opponent John Nance Garner wyldwolf Mar 2020 #34

So? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #37

Goal post moving aside... wyldwolf Mar 2020 #60

No moving any goal posts Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #62

Perhaps you don't know the definition of 'goal post moving.' wyldwolf Mar 2020 #64

Time frame is irrelevant Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #65

then why set it? And why later claim losing tickets don't count? Let's review: wyldwolf Mar 2020 #67

Thanks for proving my point! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #69

Anyone reading knows you're point hasn't been proven. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #71

OK then post actual facts that disprove it Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #74

Your OP is clearly false. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #77

OK Then prove it false Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #79

It also said nominees picking a rival is "the exception, not the rule." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #83

OK Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #88

you're spending a lot of time on something you're so clearly wrong about. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #90

Then prove me wrong Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #92

I already have, your goal post moving aside wyldwolf Mar 2020 #94

I haven't moved any goal posts Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #99

you've done it constantly wyldwolf Mar 2020 #101

Please Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #104

25% of the time isn't the "exception to the rule." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #105

Still playing silly semantics games Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #107

quoting you isn't "semantic games." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #111

Please Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #114

Please. 25% of the time isn't, to quote you "the exception to the rule." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #115

More semantics games Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #121

quoting you isn't "semantic games." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #122

Yes it is Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #124

No it isn't. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #127

Great points, although Jack Kemp was not a primary rival in 1996 Polybius Mar 2020 #404

I already have, your goal post moving aside wyldwolf Mar 2020 #78

Nice Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #80

You're goal post moving again. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #86

That's a silly gotcha point Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #96

It's a fact. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #98

No it's not Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #106

yes it is, you're goal post moving aside wyldwolf Mar 2020 #109

And where did I use the word limit? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #112

"word limit?" Who's mentioned "word limit." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #120

No as an example Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #123

Show me a link that says "primaries began in 1912." LOL wyldwolf Mar 2020 #125

Here you go Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #128

I'll quote your link wyldwolf Mar 2020 #130

In 1910, Oregon became the first state to establish a presidential preference primary Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #135

sure, but that wasn't 1912. Nor was Florida's in 1901 wyldwolf Mar 2020 #140

There was no Presidential election in 1910 or 1901 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #146

So? There were primaries. Is your link lying? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #147

OK then please post evidence of Presidential primaries prior to 1912 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #153

I did, using YOUR link. The link YOU gave. Should I quote again? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #155

Enacted? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #159

So your link is lying? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #163

Never said it was Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #165

you're disputing your own link wyldwolf Mar 2020 #166

Not at all Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #168

yes you are wyldwolf Mar 2020 #170

Nope Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #173

You've lost faith in your link wyldwolf Mar 2020 #176

Not at all Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #181

apparently so. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #183

Nope Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #189

yep wyldwolf Mar 2020 #191

No Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #196

yes wyldwolf Mar 2020 #198

No Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #203

Yes wyldwolf Mar 2020 #205

No Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #206

It was your link, not mine. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #208

And the link never says that primaries were held prior to 1912 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #210

yes it does. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #212

Show where it does Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #213

I already have. Multiple times. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #214

No you haven't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #217

yes I have. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #219

No you haven't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #221

yes I have wyldwolf Mar 2020 #222

Claim that you have over and over Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #224

Claim that i haven't over and over wyldwolf Mar 2020 #228

No the links make it true Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #230

Exactly. Your link makes what I said true. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #231

No it doesn't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #234

Yes it does. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #236

OK then point out where it does Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #237

I already have. Multiple times. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #239

No you haven't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #242

yes I have multiple times. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #243

Where? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #245

Your link. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #248

Link doesn't say that Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #249

yes it does. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #251

It doesn't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #253

It does. And I've quoted it several times. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #255

And it never says any primaries were held prior to 1912 Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #258

yes it does. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #260

No it doesn't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #262

yes it is. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #264

Nope Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #266

yep wyldwolf Mar 2020 #268

Then show where it does Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #270

I already have. Multiple times. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #271

Then show me again Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #279

No, I already have multiple times. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #280

No you haven't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #288

yes I have wyldwolf Mar 2020 #298

Weak comeback nt Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #315

yet stronger than all of yours. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #317

Truth is strength Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #322

which is why all your non-points have been weak. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #323

I've only made one point Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #331

one initial point, then constant goal posts moves to bolster it. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #332

No you're the one moving goal post Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #341

You started goal post moving the moment you said losing tickets didn't count. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #343

I don't think they are relevant Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #357

which only weakens your point wyldwolf Mar 2020 #358

Not a point but an observation Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #381

A point wyldwolf Mar 2020 #383

Call it what you like if it makes you happy Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #386

Thanks! Most would agree wyldwolf Mar 2020 #387

I would hope they agree with facts Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #390

Give some and we'll see. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #391

OK Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #393

You're still dodging the ridiculous claim wyldwolf Mar 2020 #396

This post counts winners and losers Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #397

Your op doesn't. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #399

But where is it factually wrong. Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #401

Save your breath, their argument is specious and kind of silly Dream Girl Mar 2020 #118

You're free to disprove my premise Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #132

That was't your premise wyldwolf Mar 2020 #138

Yes it was Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #142

it wasn't the title of your OP wyldwolf Mar 2020 #144

Yes "Most Nominees don't pick a former primary opponent as VP." Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #151

But you just said it WASN'T the title of your OP. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #152

Yes that is the title of my OP Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #158

In post #142 you said the title was something else. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #161

No I didn't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #164

yes you did. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #169

No that is dishonest Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #171

quoting you is dishonest? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #177

Yes when you selectively edit it Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #178

A quote isn't an edit. I directly quoted you. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #180

You edited it Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #186

where? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #190

Here Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #195

No edits there. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #197

Please Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #201

Please wyldwolf Mar 2020 #204

Each election is unique treestar Mar 2020 #137

Very true Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #139

Man. This thread started dumb and just got dumber. Squinch Mar 2020 #179

You're telling me! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #184

I lulzed. Squinch Mar 2020 #187

He called your OP dumb, and you agreed, LOL. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #194

He called the thread dumb Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #200

the OP started the thread, and is the dumbest part wyldwolf Mar 2020 #207

Just a simple observation of history Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #281

tainted by your goal post moving and caveats to lend more credence to a flawed premise. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #283

What is flawed? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #290

So a candidate who picks a primary rival but loses didn't really pick a primary rival? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #295

Never claimed that Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #297

yes you did. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #299

Here we go again Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #302

Here we go again wyldwolf Mar 2020 #304

Not denying anything Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #307

Sure you are. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #310

Nope Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #313

yep wyldwolf Mar 2020 #316

Nope Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #319

yep! And you're welcome for the kick. Happy to do it. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #321

Nope and thanks again! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #324

Yep! And you're welcome. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #325

Nope Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #336

yep! And you're welcome. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #339

No Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #342

Yes wyldwolf Mar 2020 #344

Nope and thanks! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #346

yes and your welcome! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #348

No Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #352

Yes wyldwolf Mar 2020 #354

Nope! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #361

Yep! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #362

False! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #366

True! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #369

Nope and thanks again! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #371

Yep! And you're welcome again! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #373

No, no, no!!! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #375

Yes, yes, yes! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #377

No! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #378

Yes! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #379

Nada! Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #384

This message was self-deleted by its author Polybius Mar 2020 #276

yup, a dumb op by someone who can't stand to be proven wrong wyldwolf Mar 2020 #188

Where have I been proven wrong? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #199

through out the thread, which is why you've moved goal posts like these: wyldwolf Mar 2020 #202

Never moved any goal posts Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #247

Sure you did. Like "losing tickets don't count." wyldwolf Mar 2020 #250

And I still don't think they do Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #284

That's hysterical! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #285

And most nominees don't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #287

But many do, including those who lose the GE. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #306

Yes many do Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #328

And 25% is no where near being an exception to the rule as you've contended. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #330

Still only 25% Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #333

and still nowhere near being an exception to the rule as you've contended. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #334

But it is still most Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #338

but certainly not an exception to the rule as you've contended. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #340

Still 3 times as more Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #345

but not an exception to the rule as you contended. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #347

But still most 3 times as more. Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #351

but certainly not an exception to the rule as you've contended. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #353

No that was based on responding to your post Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #364

I went back to the late 1700s wyldwolf Mar 2020 #367

What primaries were held in the late 1700s? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #388

Here Polybius Mar 2020 #277

I wasn't counting losing tickets Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #286

You moved a goal post wyldwolf Mar 2020 #308

Not at all Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #311

A complete goal post move wyldwolf Mar 2020 #314

Well before it was 30% Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #318

Why 1912? You originally said "going back 70 years." Goal post move. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #320

Last 10 elections Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #326

Why last 10 elections? Why not every election - including losing tickets? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #327

10 seemed like a nice round number Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #335

So is 12. So is 20. But 10 seemed like a number that would bolster your point best. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #337

I don't care how many you want to look at Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #349

because you know the more elections looked at, the weaker your point gets. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #350

Not a point Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #355

It was your point wyldwolf Mar 2020 #356

Really? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #359

Yes, really. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #360

So what time frame do you want to set? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #365

How about the very first election? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #370

OK Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #374

Already posted the first two wyldwolf Mar 2020 #376

Then post the rest Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #380

It's your point to prove. You're op. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #382

I've proved it here: Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #385

That wasn't proof. And you've been proved wrong. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #389

How wasn't it proof? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #392

We must have missed that in your op. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #394

Please show me where what I posted was in error? Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #395

Please show us that in your op. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #398

Well you are free to show where my OP is factually incorrect Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #400

I am comfortable with whoever Joe selects Gothmog Mar 2020 #292

Kennedy picked LBJ, Reagan picked George H.W. Bush hlthe2b Mar 2020 #368

Very true Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #372