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quakerboy

(14,103 posts)
136. I take it as axiomatic that
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:57 PM
Mar 2020

the segment of voters who have so far chosen sanders should be coaxed and courted.

The literally millions of people who chose to vote for Bernie sanders over all of the other potential candidates, each for their own reasons. Want to win? Sure California is blue no matter who. But Colorado.. Biden will need the 36% of Democrats who supported Bernie. And in Nevada. And in Minnesota, and Michigan and any number of other states that aren't just guaranteed blue wins. Heck even in states where Biden had his blowouts.. The Carolinas. If Biden is going to win the GE in those tough states, he will need the support of the minorities that voted for Sanders as well as the majorities that gave him his primary victory.

We need ALL of us on board to win. Trump will be cheating. We need margins that make it impossible to steal.

Sanders himself.. if he becomes a problem in the quest to remove trump, as a long time supporter, I say fuck him. Its not about Sanders, it never has been, and if it ever is, his movement is dead. Personally, I dont think that he is a problem. I think that as a person of Jewish heritage who's family came from Poland, he sees as clearly as almost anyone alive exactly what a second term of Trump would mean for all of us.

But the voters behind him, those we need.. We cant assume that trump is so bad that they will just fall in line, or be unnecessary. Thats what happened in 2016, and it has turned out disastrously for the country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
The Senate is in session today, there quite possibly could be a vote on the next Aid Package... George II Mar 2020 #1
He is "ASSessing" apparently. MineralMan Mar 2020 #4
He's been assessing since Tuesday night. It's not like there are a dozen options out there.... George II Mar 2020 #6
Well, I'm sorry he's feeling disappointed, to be sure. MineralMan Mar 2020 #9
And PatSeg Mar 2020 #11
Indeed. MineralMan Mar 2020 #12
He might be up in Vermont for a different reason democrattotheend Mar 2020 #116
Oh isn't that nice, he hasn't attacked Biden since last week's primaries. He actually rarely.... George II Mar 2020 #120
Bernie owns a home in D.C. TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #122
He is a Senator...Feinstein is older than he is ...and Nancy Pelosi around the same age...he Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #138
Good question Gothmog Mar 2020 #29
He missed more than 260 consecutive votes from late June 2019 through the second week of Jan 2020. George II Mar 2020 #33
If Accurate, That is Quite Shocking! MineralMan Mar 2020 #59
Actually the number is only 244, he did show up for one on June 28 2019. But for that one.... George II Mar 2020 #85
Missed voting on the Coronavirus preparedness supplemental appropriations bill. Managed emmaverybo Mar 2020 #61
Wait, what? mcar Mar 2020 #105
He does. But he never said it was the COVID-19 crisis. His campaign in cratering, that's probably... George II Mar 2020 #110
This is just sad mcar Mar 2020 #119
Another choice is to continue taking advantage of the national stage to push... LAS14 Mar 2020 #2
I disagree. Trump is apparently regaining strength through his MineralMan Mar 2020 #7
He says he wants the best for all Americans Butterflylady Mar 2020 #23
Obviously, I agree. MineralMan Mar 2020 #25
Trump is making himself look like a fool in the COVID-19 "briefings". Blue_true Mar 2020 #124
No, it hurts us with money...can't begin to build a war chest for the presidential and down ballot Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #139
I think Bernie's tail might be wagging his dog at this point. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #3
Poor Bernie... MineralMan Mar 2020 #5
Bless his heart! True Blue American Mar 2020 #8
I'm sure he means well, too, MineralMan Mar 2020 #10
Then He Ain't Much Of A Dog, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #14
I agree. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #15
A distant relation is part of this cult Fritz Walter Mar 2020 #96
Not only Trump supports Bernie, but also Putin. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2020 #101
Ask Sanders if our different responses to pandemic is Hortensis Mar 2020 #13
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #16
I can only speak for myself, I'm afraid. MineralMan Mar 2020 #18
Because Bernie insists on bringing attention to himself. Warren, Amy, Pete... TreasonousBastard Mar 2020 #20
It's all about him!!!!! Butterflylady Mar 2020 #26
Ordinarily I would say you are right, and I do appreciate Bernie's influence on the party's platform femmedem Mar 2020 #24
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #32
LOL trc Mar 2020 #42
What has sanders accomplished in the real world? I keep asking this question with no answers Gothmog Mar 2020 #34
Why do so many Bernie supporters spend so much time urging Bernie to stay in the race? kstewart33 Mar 2020 #45
Bernie gets to decide and only him jimfields33 Mar 2020 #82
The bottom line is that Bernie is clinging on to a non-existent hope NCProgressive Mar 2020 #89
Which is worse in another way ... nolawarlock Mar 2020 #104
We're wasting time! Biden can be going directly after trump NOW and the DNC can start.... George II Mar 2020 #111
The reason is simple...by remaining in the race Sanders helps Trump and the dangers of Trump Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #52
Mass deaths will commence shortly in the U.S. dalton99a Mar 2020 #17
Yes. Bernie Sanders Is Irrelevant in Many Ways. MineralMan Mar 2020 #19
To me, it looks like Bernie's ego is getting in the way. C Moon Mar 2020 #21
Anyone who undertakes to run for President is someone with a large ego. MineralMan Mar 2020 #27
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #22
Aiding Trump Is His Only Leverage, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #28
It is truly mind boggling that Sanders supporters that clearly see themselves Blue_true Mar 2020 #131
I cannot tell Bernie or anyone else what to do. MineralMan Mar 2020 #30
If he does.... paleotn Mar 2020 #65
He cannot run as an independent now NCProgressive Mar 2020 #90
Well, we all know how that will turn out. kstewart33 Mar 2020 #100
If we did it Bernie's way we would be in a hell of lot better shape. erlewyne Mar 2020 #31
Perhaps. But we have already seen that we are not MineralMan Mar 2020 #35
Pardon me, erlewyne Mar 2020 #46
Really? You said this: George II Mar 2020 #94
"Al Gore's running mate?" What does that have to do with the discussion? ehrnst Mar 2020 #54
I voted for Gore erlewyne Mar 2020 #75
I barely voted to keep your post, coti Mar 2020 #97
Dump me. erlewyne Mar 2020 #114
A clarification please irisblue Mar 2020 #151
What does Joe Lieberman have to do with the conversation? n/t Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #88
... NCProgressive Mar 2020 #91
Al Gore's running mate is running this year? George II Mar 2020 #92
Bernie did not give you any of that...Democrats did. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #140
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #150
Don't go, Bernie bfealk Mar 2020 #36
Where is Bernie? Is He Taking Part in Senate Actions? MineralMan Mar 2020 #37
This, Sir, May Be The Single Stupidest Post Made Today The Magistrate Mar 2020 #38
There Is, Sir, Considerable Competition for That Award. MineralMan Mar 2020 #41
Oh the day is young grantcart Mar 2020 #50
"Defacto leader of the country?" No that would be Nancy Pelosi, not Bernie. ehrnst Mar 2020 #48
And Hamlet was the de facto leader of Denmark... greatauntoftriplets Mar 2020 #83
"No on has seen Joe since the last debate"? That sure isn't correct. Where is Sanders???? George II Mar 2020 #99
"Bernie is the de facto leader of the country right now" mcar Mar 2020 #107
That is why he has to go...he is not the leader of anything...he is a failed presidential candidate. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #142
This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #152
For the good of this nation and every person living here, warmfeet Mar 2020 #39
Well Stated! MineralMan Mar 2020 #40
Good points. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2020 #43
Thanks! MineralMan Mar 2020 #44
We get it quakerboy Mar 2020 #47
You are incorrect. I do like Bernie. MineralMan Mar 2020 #51
The post I responded to did not indicate that. quakerboy Mar 2020 #154
Yes, I can see that you haven't posted much in the past 90 days. MineralMan Mar 2020 #156
Ha. quakerboy Mar 2020 #160
Why Is Not On Sanders To Co-Operate, Sir? The Magistrate Mar 2020 #87
I take it as axiomatic that quakerboy Mar 2020 #136
Then Why Is He Delaying, Sir? The Magistrate Mar 2020 #144
We know nothing of the kind. quakerboy Mar 2020 #155
To Put It Bluntly, Sir, That's A Load Of Crap The Magistrate Mar 2020 #157
To put it bluntly quakerboy Mar 2020 #158
As You Wish, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #159
There is nothing to talk about...Bernie was beaten badly. He needs to concede and endorse if he Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #143
Bernie has lost. Concession and endorsement are meaningless at this point quakerboy Mar 2020 #165
Concessions are not meaningless...just saying if he suspends his campaign,it works for me so we can Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #166
If you read the excellent NY Times article on how the campaign fell apart grantcart Mar 2020 #49
You are correct, I think, on all counts. MineralMan Mar 2020 #53
Better Joe! Let's DumptheTrumpS in 2020! usaf-vet Mar 2020 #55
+100 MineralMan Mar 2020 #56
Some people have a remarkable ability to inflate and littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #57
I don't fault political candidates for their large egos. MineralMan Mar 2020 #60
More than enough, Bernie. demigoddess Mar 2020 #58
What if customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #62
Well, if EVERYBODY just ignored Bernie Sanders, that would be fine. MineralMan Mar 2020 #63
Like I said customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #67
Sadly, people do not always vote rationally. MineralMan Mar 2020 #70
They always vote customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #74
Well, I hope we don't have to worry about that. MineralMan Mar 2020 #77
Whether it happens now customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #80
I disagree on the timing, but that's OK. MineralMan Mar 2020 #81
Bernie is about to become "old man shaking his fist at the moon" kinda guy. Go Home Bern, it's over. NotHardly Mar 2020 #64
"Be a mensch" PJMcK Mar 2020 #66
There are some words in Yiddish that have no equal in English. MineralMan Mar 2020 #71
As a long-time New Yorker, I know exactly what you mean PJMcK Mar 2020 #113
While I agree he needs to get his butt back and vote, he has been using his donantion airmid Mar 2020 #68
Yes, it is his decision, which is why I'm encouraging him to MineralMan Mar 2020 #73
Time for him to go...and the donations pay something to act blue...and is the entire amount donated? Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #145
Cool, another divisive thread. nt Gore1FL Mar 2020 #69
Is it? I disagree. MineralMan Mar 2020 #72
Dictating the actions of someone else based on a misguided understanding isn't helpful. Gore1FL Mar 2020 #93
How is a suggestion dictating anything? MineralMan Mar 2020 #95
FFS nt Gore1FL Mar 2020 #109
Bernie could be the white knight making the final thrust into the heart of "conservatism"..... jaxexpat Mar 2020 #76
Very nicely said! MineralMan Mar 2020 #78
I have read all of the posts and points made and countered in this thread with great interest hangaleft Mar 2020 #115
The op said Bernie, not Biden. nt showblue22 Mar 2020 #133
My mistake hangaleft Mar 2020 #134
For the record, Bernie Sanders did stump for Hillary. secondwind Mar 2020 #79
Yes. I remember that. MineralMan Mar 2020 #84
Sorta. Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #106
It would have been better if he didn't. showblue22 Mar 2020 #108
He Did Not Do What He Had To, Ma'am, To Be Effective At It The Magistrate Mar 2020 #112
This is interesting Gothmog Mar 2020 #86
Weird. MineralMan Mar 2020 #98
Yes very weird Gothmog Mar 2020 #146
Bernie's remarks about Cuba were just plain stupid hangaleft Mar 2020 #118
Bernie was so sure he was going to beat Biden that he campaigned in Klobouchar and Warren's states Gothmog Mar 2020 #102
K&R! Bravo! IluvPitties Mar 2020 #103
GET OFF MY LAWN! James48 Mar 2020 #117
Please consider taking your own advice... MineralMan Mar 2020 #123
Like you just did? TwilightZone Mar 2020 #127
Irony is a funny thing... MineralMan Mar 2020 #129
We're tired, exhausted. showblue22 Mar 2020 #135
This amuses me Gothmog Mar 2020 #121
Kick & recommended. William769 Mar 2020 #125
oh shush Pillow talk Mar 2020 #126
Sorry. I won't do that. MineralMan Mar 2020 #128
Bravo! emmaverybo Mar 2020 #137
Bernie needs to drop out theglammistress Mar 2020 #130
This message was self-deleted by its author Dem2 Mar 2020 #132
It's going to go on and on and on and on and on and on and on... betsuni Mar 2020 #141
TRUTH!!!! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #147
Nearly half of Democratic primary voters have not voted yet. Aaron Pereira Mar 2020 #148
Bernie needs to drop out and support Joe. SlimJimmy Mar 2020 #149
For those who claim Sanders and/or his campaign aren't attacking Biden: George II Mar 2020 #153
How do you hold a round table on COVID 19 with no medical expert? Gothmog Mar 2020 #161
The Rest of the Senate is in DC, voting on a relief bill. Bernie has a Concert, MineralMan Mar 2020 #162
Did this rally flop? Gothmog Mar 2020 #163
This makes me smile Gothmog Mar 2020 #164
Arggh Gothmog Mar 2020 #167
He also can't show up at his job in the Senate MineralMan Mar 2020 #168
And if Biden's campaign completely falls apart? fallout87 Mar 2020 #169
Is that something you hope for? MineralMan Mar 2020 #170
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