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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
14. Simply not true. His career proves that.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:03 PM
Mar 2020

Yes, he has achieved a lot in congress, it's absurd to say he hasn't achieved a thing. Even with the political tides rolling continually to the right, he managed to affect legislation and get many amendments passed. Of course it's lonely standing on principle. Of course it's easier to go along with the crowd into disastrous wars and corporate giveaways. The fact that he never did that is a good thing, not a bad thing.

If it was about Bernie, instead of standing on principle for all those years, he could easily have gotten "in" with the centrist/corporate establishment by voting with the herd on things like the Iraq War or trade agreements, DOMA, and countless other horrible bills. That's the path of least resistance, going with the flow and the lobbyists.

And he has zero responsibility for the 2016 outcome, obviously. He fully supported the nominee, and there was less cross-over voting in 2016 than there was in 2008.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
She was my second choice also. Not quite as solid on progressive values as Bernie, but still DanTex Mar 2020 #1
She is doing her job Dan. Bernie has lost all credibility for me with his refusal to get out of Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #4
And Warren has lost a lot of credibility with me, with a number of actions. DanTex Mar 2020 #10
It Has Never Been About Anything But 'Bernie', Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #11
Simply not true. His career proves that. DanTex Mar 2020 #14
Nonesense, Sir --- He Has Not Achieved A Thing The Magistrate Mar 2020 #16
Simply false. He's achieved a huge amount. DanTex Mar 2020 #18
Thank You For The Laugh, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #20
I take it by your non-response that you don't refute any of the facts in my last post. Thanks! DanTex Mar 2020 #21
You May Take It, Sir, For Acknowledgement You Cannot Be Reached By Reason The Magistrate Mar 2020 #23
Another dodge. I guess when confronted by facts, that's your go-to move. DanTex Mar 2020 #25
Give it up Dan. In these scary times, some DUers need a boogyman. zonkers Mar 2020 #44
And some people know when they're being trolled n/t Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #45
one small correction- bubbazero Mar 2020 #35
We don't have single payer or even a public option, we don't have a 15 minimum, and as for the war. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #40
Great examples of the need to elect more progressive Dems. DanTex Mar 2020 #42
Progressives as you call them...I call that subset Left/Greens caused it to happen by not supporting Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #47
He's showing on a national stage why he's been a legislative failure for progressives for 30 years. W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #12
He's been a huge legislative success for progressives. DanTex Mar 2020 #15
If That Were True, Sir, Sanders Would Have Got More Votes The Magistrate Mar 2020 #17
The two are entirely unrelated. DanTex Mar 2020 #19
Of Course That Are Related, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #22
He got the second-most primary votes, you realize that, right? DanTex Mar 2020 #24
Again, Sir, I Appreciate You Comedy Stylings The Magistrate Mar 2020 #26
Again! LOL. When confronted with facts, you dodge! DanTex Mar 2020 #27
He is losing by double digits...so if they like the policy which I doubt, than they don't like Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #38
Really, I hear this but what significance do these amendments have...no one even remembers them. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #39
Again by "no one" you are talking about "centrists". DanTex Mar 2020 #41
Insults will get you nowhere...there it is again the old 'if you disagree than you are not a 'real' Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #49
"Centrist" is not an insult, it's a description. Why do you think it's an insult? DanTex Mar 2020 #50
It is a matter of opinion whether Donald Trump would be president today had Sanders aided Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #32
But it's not a matter of opinion that Bernie did more rallies for HRC than HRC did for Obama. DanTex Mar 2020 #33
Now that I can speak to...not only did Hillary go all out but so did Bill...and he was very Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #37
This. zonkers Mar 2020 #43
I'm beginning to wonder if Sanders might have cv, or symptoms of it, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #2
Maybe he has been exposed...it is possible. He wouldn't want to admit it after his heart attack Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #6
This crisis that we face over a viral pandemic is going to produce a few heroes.... EarnestPutz Mar 2020 #3
I still believe Biden is our best bet to take Trump out...but I admire Sen. Warren a great deal. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #7
She was also my second choice, after Joe Biden. MineralMan Mar 2020 #5
Mine too MM. I have a great deal of respect for Sen. Warren and I like her very much. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #8
My first choice. What a warrior! GreenPartyVoter Mar 2020 #9
I agree. Senator Warren saidsimplesimon Mar 2020 #28
Far And Away The Best Candidate In The Field, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #13
My thoughts too! eom BlueMTexpat Mar 2020 #36
She wasn't my first choice or even second but I respect her MustLoveBeagles Mar 2020 #29
Baily is adorable...love dogs... Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #46
Saw her on Bloomberg this morning. She was great!!! still_one Mar 2020 #30
Nevertheless she persisted voteearlyvoteoften Mar 2020 #31
Yes Warren's great. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #34
Kick & highly recommended. William769 Mar 2020 #48
if she wasn't so many folks second choice. nope Pillow talk Mar 2020 #51
Thank you Elizabeth for all you do for us. FM123 Mar 2020 #52
Much of the MSM are calling THIS congressional squabbling Hortensis Mar 2020 #53
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