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LostOne4Ever

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196. How about claiming he was a spoiler last time

Tue Mar 24, 2020, 07:26 PM

Mar 2020

Or that he caused Hillary to lose?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=632743
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=660747

Points that are claimed time and time again despite the fact that by definition, Bernie was not a spoiler, and that there is literally no evidence that Sander's campaign had any more negative effect than any other close primary.

http://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/did-bernie-sanders-cost-hillary-clinton-the-presidency/

But no matter how much I point this out, I get people who keep on making that claim.

Or how about saying Sander's isn't much of a man?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=683808

A straight up insult to a man who is an ally of the democratic party and has caucused for us and fought for many of causes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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All of the Bernie Bashing is a form of cyberbullying which has no place on this website. [View all] diva77 Mar 2020 OP

one suspects bernie is not reading anything posted on du nt msongs Mar 2020 #1

You are right. might as wel flame away. zonkers Mar 2020 #2

Ah, irony. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #5

I noticed that also Gothmog Mar 2020 #66

Is Bernie Sanders responsible for his supporters' behavior? Is Trump? TomCADem Mar 2020 #40

People who have positive things to say about Bernie are being bullied. My post is not about whether diva77 Mar 2020 #3

+1 Paka Mar 2020 #11

I am so sorry you had this experience. Thank you for speaking out. diva77 Mar 2020 #14

+1000 Meadowoak Mar 2020 #39

+1 ancianita Mar 2020 #46

Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #52

You are so right. Paka Mar 2020 #54

I Am Also Tired of the Cyberbullying McKim Mar 2020 #57

DU is not affiliated with the Democratic Party. It is a privately owned website emulatorloo Mar 2020 #167

My suggestion True Blue American Mar 2020 #178

Methinks you have plenty of company notinkansas Mar 2020 #64

When is he going to drop out? brush Mar 2020 #181

+1 BComplex Mar 2020 #234

"Why isn't Biden doing what Bernie is doing" is not saying a positive thing about Bernie. Anon-C Mar 2020 #32

Sure it can. quakerboy Mar 2020 #60

Ok, I'll chill. Anon-C Mar 2020 #65

Are you serious? Aquaria Mar 2020 #82

+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #84

A thousand times this. nt Codeine Mar 2020 #92

Well said! mcar Mar 2020 #138

x 2 zackymilly Mar 2020 #142

Beautiful, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #146

+100 MineralMan Mar 2020 #162

When was the last time trump was the opposition? quakerboy Mar 2020 #185

Oh please. Aquaria Mar 2020 #262

Also, all the other candidates who have dropped out-- no one's talking about "processing grief" dawg day Mar 2020 #218

No One Seems Able To Answer That Question, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #222

Brilliant and yes, spot on. emmaverybo Mar 2020 #254

+1 ancianita Mar 2020 #45

We strongly disagree with the assertions/claims being made about sanders Gothmog Mar 2020 #68

Believe what you believe, do not bully others posting your opinion daily as fact. Rilgin Mar 2020 #71

There are records in Congress as to bill passed and these records are facts Gothmog Mar 2020 #97

I am not going to engage with you. I am asking you to stop being daily posting of your Bernie hatre Rilgin Mar 2020 #103

sanders is running for POTUS and so his record or lack of record is in issue Gothmog Mar 2020 #104

Just wanted to stop in and affirm your points here. BlueWI Mar 2020 #172

+1 JudyM Mar 2020 #183

I just wanted the far superior candidate, far superior to anyone running, Liz... Eliot Rosewater Mar 2020 #188

Yes. This primary my wife and I supported and contributed to Liz. Rilgin Mar 2020 #220

I was also a Warren supporter this year. BlueWI Mar 2020 #226

Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #110

The similarities between the two groups are clear Gothmog Mar 2020 #159

So you have nothing, but attacks on Biden? Aquaria Mar 2020 #105

:) True Blue American Mar 2020 #112

I do not say anything negative about Joe Biden. I like him. Rilgin Mar 2020 #113

It's interesting to compare posts like this one with ones made four years ago LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #155

So you are saying I learned something about unity that you didnt? Rilgin Mar 2020 #182

In other words, "I'm not doing it anymore so it's ok for me to tell you not to" LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #184

No, I never did what haters do here. I didnt swarm and didnt hate or express hate Rilgin Mar 2020 #187

Whatever LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #189

I just don't think it needs a "voter revolution" to turn the Senate dawg day Mar 2020 #219

Exactly Rilgin Mar 2020 #268

Biden's campaign is about one thing to many of us Biden supporters. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #257

No problem at all with your support of Joe. We need to bury Trumpism. Rilgin Mar 2020 #264

+2 KPN Mar 2020 #70

Right. And we're modelling an environment which, in the long run, I wouldn't want to participate in LAS14 Mar 2020 #157

Sanders is waging a war against our presumptive nominee, just like Trump. tritsofme Mar 2020 #173

Sickening Faux pas Mar 2020 #205

Clearly not reading Twitter, either. George II Mar 2020 #127

BS Lost and he Spent 3x More $$$$$ than Joe Biden to Do it. Cha Mar 2020 #4

Textbook example. diva77 Mar 2020 #7

Roll your eyes. The BS campaign is still bashing Biden. Tell Cha Mar 2020 #15

+10000 emmaverybo Mar 2020 #48

But it's not the DU community that's bashing Biden, or any other candidate. Bluepinky Mar 2020 #63

When things get posted that are inaccurate Aquaria Mar 2020 #87

Your post above is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Bluepinky Mar 2020 #124

So, what's your take on his lies and smears about the Democratic party? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #136

You apparently didn't read the post mcar Mar 2020 #141

You Call That Dismissive, Fella? The Magistrate Mar 2020 #148

That's not cyber bullying... SidDithers Mar 2020 #24

Of what? Using facts? Gothmog Mar 2020 #160

Bernie's own words are bashing! betsuni Mar 2020 #25

I'm an atheist woman of Jewish heritage Aquaria Mar 2020 #85

"Establishment" simply means any person/organization that doesn't vote for/endorse Bernie. betsuni Mar 2020 #86

It's simplistic, isn't it? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #199

Thank you. Paka Mar 2020 #6

I believe that according to DU Terms of Service Sloumeau Mar 2020 #8

That's the problem. Aquaria Mar 2020 #88

you say potato I say potahto. William769 Mar 2020 #9

And Dan Quayle said 'potatoe.' n/t Harker Mar 2020 #28

hmmm all this wil stop when Sanders' supporters stop the vile memes such as NCProgressive Mar 2020 #10

It's not necessarily the same person who slams me. Paka Mar 2020 #16

Then ignore them all and create your own peaceful and pleasant echo chamber. NCProgressive Mar 2020 #18

I'm under lockdown living in one room. Paka Mar 2020 #55

No one has been "uncivil" to you nor BS NCProgressive Mar 2020 #132

Sometimes Drama writers have it right. Who knew. ahoysrcsm Mar 2020 #89

With a response like that... Paka Mar 2020 #95

"Biden supporters" are people who want a Democrat to win the election. betsuni Mar 2020 #98

You Are Unlikely To Get An Answer To That Question, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Mar 2020 #143

This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Mar 2020 #145

I recommend some philosophy books... ahoysrcsm Mar 2020 #152

Thank you for your concern. Paka Mar 2020 #186

Bravo. emmaverybo Mar 2020 #49

Yes elleng Mar 2020 #12

Tell the BS campaign to Stop Bashing Joe Biden. Cha Mar 2020 #17

Please give us the address or email for everyone of them and we can. Its not on DU Rilgin Mar 2020 #72

You must be joking Aquaria Mar 2020 #91

Just scroll down the greatest threads. Find one bash of anyone but Bernie. None on Biden. Rilgin Mar 2020 #96

I just posted a list of bashing that BSers have done in only the past week on this site. Aquaria Mar 2020 #111

Now do the other side. Count the threads on Bernie daily. Look at this thread. Any Biden hits? Rilgin Mar 2020 #116

I don't have to do the "other side," cupcake. Aquaria Mar 2020 #259

"Biden won," is considered Bernie bashing. tirebiter Mar 2020 #230

Strongly strongly agree but ... the jimlup Mar 2020 #13

Let me remind you that there is an election which Bernie has lost badly NCProgressive Mar 2020 #19

keep dancing your silly and pointless victory dance jimlup Mar 2020 #44

Just the facts. No dancing here. NCProgressive Mar 2020 #47

Not facts jimlup Mar 2020 #53

+1 ancianita Mar 2020 #56

No, cupcake. it's not irrelevant fixation on our superiority Aquaria Mar 2020 #93

Also, many Bernie supporters are not Democrats Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #117

Weirdly, for some, Democratic Underground means anti-Democratic. betsuni Mar 2020 #125

Many on here support Biden now but also feel dearly for Bernie's policies NCProgressive Mar 2020 #133

Can't alienate someone who plans to sit out the election. ahoysrcsm Mar 2020 #90

We all see what we want to see. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #20

hopefully this one will be different since we lost last time questionseverything Mar 2020 #29

Or people can see that Bashing Effects others and JUST STOP BASHING. UNIFY Rilgin Mar 2020 #73

That would require sanders admitting defeat and endorsing Joe Gothmog Mar 2020 #161

Exactly right LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #166

Hey, it's not like we said Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #21

No he was called a cult leader. Making someone here who supports him a cultist. Rilgin Mar 2020 #75

Get some sleep. Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #77

You're called cult followers because you act like them Aquaria Mar 2020 #118

Disgusting. Rather than understand that insults are bad. You add to it. Rilgin Mar 2020 #120

Why, as a life-long Democrat, do you like Bernie "for the reasons I like him"? betsuni Mar 2020 #128

I do not insist that you like him. I do mind that you dont give others the courtesy to like him. Rilgin Mar 2020 #134

What? betsuni Mar 2020 #135

Nailed it. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #129

OK, Melania. message received. stopdiggin Mar 2020 #22

You have the ability to block anyone bugging you... SidDithers Mar 2020 #23

Agreed on all counts. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #26

The bashing has gone on for years and there are groups of people who post in tandem to attack diva77 Mar 2020 #31

Let's see some examples of what you think cyber bullying is here on DU. William769 Mar 2020 #37

Of course progressoid Mar 2020 #59

Paraphrase or send me a PM William769 Mar 2020 #61

No it's not... SidDithers Mar 2020 #62

+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #69

Mahalo Sid.. it's really sad accusing Cha Mar 2020 #81

This mcar Mar 2020 #147

I saw far worse behavior by vetted sanders delegates Gothmog Mar 2020 #163

+++++++++++++++++++++++++ emmaverybo Mar 2020 #50

"Calling differences of opinion at DU "cyber bullying" is a disservice to real bullied people..." NurseJackie Mar 2020 #139

cool story bro ! stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #27

GOP, FOX, the Russians all do it SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #30

Pot, Kettle dotism Mar 2020 #33

Could you please give examples of Bernie Bashing? betsuni Mar 2020 #34

So why was Bernie not in Washington for two close votes? Where will Bernie be tomorrow? marble falls Mar 2020 #35

The Lounge is always open for those who can't handle fair criticism of oasis Mar 2020 #36

Sanders Supporters Are Not Bullied Here, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #38

Thank you, Sir! This is the crux of it. Calling out dishonesty R B Garr Mar 2020 #80

If I weren't married Aquaria Mar 2020 #106

"or even a man" LostOne4Ever Mar 2020 #195

Your View Would Seem Limited, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #198

No I take it as an evaluation of their Entire Character LostOne4Ever Mar 2020 #203

At The Risk Of Repetion, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #206

That is the definition of bashing LostOne4Ever Mar 2020 #208

Ah, Well, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #209

As am I. nt LostOne4Ever Mar 2020 #210

How do you define "Bernie bashing"? Serious question. nt pnwmom Mar 2020 #41

We will not get an answer to that question. betsuni Mar 2020 #107

How about claiming he was a spoiler last time LostOne4Ever Mar 2020 #196

This message was self-deleted by its author pnwmom Mar 2020 #201

"ally of the democratic party " TwilightZone Mar 2020 #212

One needs to be honest with one's loved ones LostOne4Ever Mar 2020 #215

Complacency? Aquaria Mar 2020 #261

How did he fight for any of them? Aquaria Mar 2020 #260

I do not see how disapproving of Senator Vogon_Glory Mar 2020 #42

Yep, the Bernie bashing has been going on hot & heavy, I pretty much ignore it as acts of yaesu Mar 2020 #43

NPR: How Russia Is Trying To Boost Bernie Sanders' Campaign TomCADem Mar 2020 #51

We should have much bigger fish to fry like that blubbery, orange Pussy-Grabber BigDemVoter Mar 2020 #58

Spirited debate is not bullying. radius777 Mar 2020 #67

I posted a positive Bernie post re books to read Kerrycrat Mar 2020 #74

I saw that post...clickbait pure and simple. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #119

I didn't intend it as click bait Kerrycrat Mar 2020 #217

Well you know the road to hell is paved with good intentions...but no matter what there were some Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #238

This is why Sanders should but won't get out of the race. ucrdem Mar 2020 #76

Bull(y)shit. NanceGreggs Mar 2020 #78

Thank you for this! wackadoo wabbit Mar 2020 #79

The projection is astounding Aquaria Mar 2020 #83

yeah. Definitely. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #99

+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #101

It's called a backlash, Codeine Mar 2020 #94

I have seen real bullying by sanders vetted national convention delegates Gothmog Mar 2020 #100

Gothmog, you are the first person I thought of when I read this OP mcar Mar 2020 #149

I found the premise of the OP to be offensive and wrong Gothmog Mar 2020 #158

Exactly, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #153

I shutter to think at the stunts that sanders supporters will pull at next convention Gothmog Mar 2020 #251

Thank you! janterry Mar 2020 #102

Bernie is putting you through this by falsely keeping your hope alive. PubliusEnigma Mar 2020 #108

I agree with you but it has been this way since 2015 ms liberty Mar 2020 #109

One disagreement True Blue American Mar 2020 #115

I think you meant to reply to the OP rather than my reply to the OP ms liberty Mar 2020 #175

I probably did True Blue American Mar 2020 #176

Maturity is a wonderful trait to have. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #214

How does one cyber bully fictitious people,? Very few, if any, use our real names here Kaleva Mar 2020 #114

Is your own sense of self-worth so wrapped up in Bernie dansolo Mar 2020 #121

Oh, FFS! Stop it. Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #122

There is some truth in what you say Hav Mar 2020 #123

"No other candidate campaigns against the Democratic party, just Bernie." NurseJackie Mar 2020 #126

This This This! sheshe2 Mar 2020 #211

I started out as a Bernie supporter in 2016. I made donations, got the T-shirt, and wore it around. NBachers Mar 2020 #130

+1 LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #168

I was warned about the planned booing of John Lewis by my whip Gothmog Mar 2020 #174

My mom dated John Lewis while they were both at Fisk... Anon-C Mar 2020 #179

John Lewis is a national treasure Gothmog Mar 2020 #253

Suspend your campaign, Bernie! Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #131

Maybe if he would stop bashing our presumptive nominee(and Democrats) we would just ignore him helpisontheway Mar 2020 #137

I feel Bernie is the one doing the bashing and bullying. honest.abe Mar 2020 #140

Bernie is fair game until he gets out of the race. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #144

as long as llashram Mar 2020 #151

Yeah. People really need to knock that shit off. TDale313 Mar 2020 #154

Thanks for posting this. nt LAS14 Mar 2020 #156

All of what you call "Bernie Bashing" will stop just as soon MineralMan Mar 2020 #164

+1 in a nutshell. stopdiggin Mar 2020 #165

you seem very concerned ! stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #169

Is it bashing to say you're sick of him and his actions? Politicub Mar 2020 #170

LOL, I'm sorry the voters bullied Sanders so badly. Maybe he can get a participation trophy tritsofme Mar 2020 #171

Oh, please. nt jrthin Mar 2020 #177

The criticism would end quickly peggysue2 Mar 2020 #180

It's a small group that is unrepresentative of the majority of Biden supporters. Aaron Pereira Mar 2020 #190

A 'small group' didn't sweep three Super Tuesdays in a row. ucrdem Mar 2020 #191

I think you may have missed my point. Aaron Pereira Mar 2020 #193

What I'm trying to say is that he's pissing off a lot of people. ucrdem Mar 2020 #194

How do you tell if a person supports Bernie "Bullsh*t" Sanders? Galraedia Mar 2020 #192

This thread is, in and of itself, proof of the point you are trying to make (nt) LostOne4Ever Mar 2020 #197

Nonsense. It's the exact opposite. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #200

More proof. And see the next reply for even more! nt LostOne4Ever Mar 2020 #204

Ha! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #207

Kickin' Faux pas Mar 2020 #202

Once Bernie drops and lets Biden focus on Trump IluvPitties Mar 2020 #213

History of what happened after Bernie did that for Hillary in 2016 LostOne4Ever Mar 2020 #216

That's because he kept up his run till two weeks before the convention, in mid-June. pnwmom Mar 2020 #224

Which was his right LostOne4Ever Mar 2020 #245

Of course it was his right. And contested primaries always cause damage to the winner. pnwmom Mar 2020 #246

And still managed to bring more of his supporters back to support Clinton. LostOne4Ever Mar 2020 #247

Neither explanation. What mattered were the swing states, and your own link shows pnwmom Mar 2020 #248

Yes lets quote from that one LostOne4Ever Mar 2020 #249

Neither of these sets of numbers account for the disenchanted millions who gave up on the process pnwmom Mar 2020 #250

Voters like Sarandon? LostOne4Ever Mar 2020 #255

We'll never know how many people Bernie could have influenced to vote for Hillary pnwmom Mar 2020 #256

But Biden's supporters maintain that it's over and Bernie has no path to the nomination. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #221

Doubtless The Party Could Act, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #223

I don't think that the leadership should take sides as long as there are two candidates totodeinhere Mar 2020 #225

I Think They Should Do It Now, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #232

everything has changed now-- the remaining primaries mostly postponed? dawg day Mar 2020 #235

Bernie is done. showblue22 Mar 2020 #265

He should, but VP Biden is too much of a gentleman KitSileya Mar 2020 #228

A Gentleman Needs Hatchet Men At Times, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #237

True dat. KitSileya Mar 2020 #239

I Have Seen that Patent Idiocy, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #240

As an English teacher KitSileya Mar 2020 #241

I Shall Try And Remember, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #242

True. All true. KitSileya Mar 2020 #243

Those I Cannot Comment On, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #244

Ahhhhh DarthDem Mar 2020 #227

kick mikelgb Mar 2020 #229

If it's just bashing Bernie Loki Liesmith Mar 2020 #231

Alas, Bernie should be bashed to extremes-- he has no interest whatsoever in anything... TreasonousBastard Mar 2020 #233

Just stay in GD, then. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #236

poor Bernie Skittles Mar 2020 #252

Your side just decided to accuse Joe Biden of rape. Codeine Mar 2020 #258

It's not making me want to stay here, that's for sure. alarimer Mar 2020 #263

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2020 #267

Have you seen the new Bernie video? It's called "3 Lawns, 1 Mower". n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #266

Bernie surrogates pushing nasty false allegations about the Dem frontrunner is cyberbullying MH1 Mar 2020 #269

That's how I feel. showblue22 Mar 2020 #272

Tribalism run a muck Sewa Mar 2020 #270

We're not accusing Bernie of rape. showblue22 Mar 2020 #271

What does that have to do with Bernie supporters Sewa Mar 2020 #273

It's a smear campaign by Bernie supporters and surrogates showblue22 Mar 2020 #274